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Dr Robert Ballard is a genuine badass
Posted on 4/1/18 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 4/1/18 at 11:45 pm
This guy has lived an amazing life
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Robert Duane Ballard (born June 30, 1942) is a retired United States Navy officer and a professor of oceanography at the University of Rhode Island who is most noted for his work in underwater archaeology: maritime archaeology and archaeology of shipwrecks. He is most known for the discoveries of the wrecks of the RMS Titanic in 1985, the battleship Bismarck in 1989, and the aircraft carrier USS Yorktown in 1998. He discovered the wreck of John F. Kennedy's PT-109 in 2002 and visited Biuku Gasa and Eroni Kumana, who saved its crew. He leads ocean exploration on E/V Nautilus.[1]
Most famous for discovering the Titanic but he’s famous for other shipwreck discoveries too.
RMS Titanic
The wreck of the RMS Titanic lies at a depth of about 12,500 feet (3,800 m) (2.37 miles (3.81 km)), about 370 miles (600 km) south-southeast off the coast of Newfoundland. It lies in two main pieces about a third of a mile (600 m) apart. The bow is still largely recognizable with many preserved interiors, despite its deterioration and the damage it sustained hitting the sea floor. In contrast, the stern is completely ruined. A debris field around the wreck contains hundreds of thousands of items spilled from the ship as she sank. The bodies of the passengers and crew would have also been distributed across the sea bed, but have been consumed by other organisms.
Bismarck
The wreck of Bismarck was discovered on 8 June 1989 by Dr. Robert Ballard, the oceanographer responsible for finding RMS Titanic. Bismarck was found to be resting upright at a depth of approximately 4,791 m (15,719 ft),[138] about 650 km (400 mi) west of Brest. The ship struck an extinct underwater volcano, which rose some 1,000 m (3,300 ft) above the surrounding abyssal plain, triggering a 2 km (1.2 mi) landslide. Bismarck slid down the mountain, coming to a stop two-thirds down.[139]
RMS Lusitania
The wreck of Lusitania lies on its starboard side at an approximately 30-degree angle in roughly 300 feet (91 m) of water, 11 miles (18 km) south of the lighthouse at Kinsale. The wreck is badly collapsed onto her starboard side, due to the force with which she struck the bottom coupled with the forces of winter tides and corrosion in the decades since the sinking. The keel has an "unusual curvature" which may be related to a lack of strength from the loss of its superstructure. The beam is reduced with the funnels missing presumably to deterioration.[110]
USS Yorktown
On 19 May 1998, the wreck of Yorktown was found and photographed by oceanographer Dr. Robert D. Ballard, discoverer of the wrecks of the RMS Titanic and the German battleship Bismarck. The wreck of Yorktown, 3 miles (5 km) beneath the surface, was sitting upright on the bottom in excellent condition although she had spent 56 years on the deep-sea floor; much paint and equipment were still visible.[7] As of November 2017, there have not been any follow-up expeditions to the Yorktown's wreckage.
PT-109
The wreckage of PT-109 was located in May 2002, when a National Geographic Society expedition headed by Robert Ballard found a torpedo tube from wreckage matching the description and location of Kennedy's vessel.[33] The boat was identified by Dale Ridder, a weapons and explosives expert on the U.S. Marine Forensics Panel.[33]
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Robert Duane Ballard (born June 30, 1942) is a retired United States Navy officer and a professor of oceanography at the University of Rhode Island who is most noted for his work in underwater archaeology: maritime archaeology and archaeology of shipwrecks. He is most known for the discoveries of the wrecks of the RMS Titanic in 1985, the battleship Bismarck in 1989, and the aircraft carrier USS Yorktown in 1998. He discovered the wreck of John F. Kennedy's PT-109 in 2002 and visited Biuku Gasa and Eroni Kumana, who saved its crew. He leads ocean exploration on E/V Nautilus.[1]
Most famous for discovering the Titanic but he’s famous for other shipwreck discoveries too.
RMS Titanic
The wreck of the RMS Titanic lies at a depth of about 12,500 feet (3,800 m) (2.37 miles (3.81 km)), about 370 miles (600 km) south-southeast off the coast of Newfoundland. It lies in two main pieces about a third of a mile (600 m) apart. The bow is still largely recognizable with many preserved interiors, despite its deterioration and the damage it sustained hitting the sea floor. In contrast, the stern is completely ruined. A debris field around the wreck contains hundreds of thousands of items spilled from the ship as she sank. The bodies of the passengers and crew would have also been distributed across the sea bed, but have been consumed by other organisms.
Bismarck
The wreck of Bismarck was discovered on 8 June 1989 by Dr. Robert Ballard, the oceanographer responsible for finding RMS Titanic. Bismarck was found to be resting upright at a depth of approximately 4,791 m (15,719 ft),[138] about 650 km (400 mi) west of Brest. The ship struck an extinct underwater volcano, which rose some 1,000 m (3,300 ft) above the surrounding abyssal plain, triggering a 2 km (1.2 mi) landslide. Bismarck slid down the mountain, coming to a stop two-thirds down.[139]
RMS Lusitania
The wreck of Lusitania lies on its starboard side at an approximately 30-degree angle in roughly 300 feet (91 m) of water, 11 miles (18 km) south of the lighthouse at Kinsale. The wreck is badly collapsed onto her starboard side, due to the force with which she struck the bottom coupled with the forces of winter tides and corrosion in the decades since the sinking. The keel has an "unusual curvature" which may be related to a lack of strength from the loss of its superstructure. The beam is reduced with the funnels missing presumably to deterioration.[110]
USS Yorktown
On 19 May 1998, the wreck of Yorktown was found and photographed by oceanographer Dr. Robert D. Ballard, discoverer of the wrecks of the RMS Titanic and the German battleship Bismarck. The wreck of Yorktown, 3 miles (5 km) beneath the surface, was sitting upright on the bottom in excellent condition although she had spent 56 years on the deep-sea floor; much paint and equipment were still visible.[7] As of November 2017, there have not been any follow-up expeditions to the Yorktown's wreckage.
PT-109
The wreckage of PT-109 was located in May 2002, when a National Geographic Society expedition headed by Robert Ballard found a torpedo tube from wreckage matching the description and location of Kennedy's vessel.[33] The boat was identified by Dale Ridder, a weapons and explosives expert on the U.S. Marine Forensics Panel.[33]
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:14 am
Posted on 4/1/18 at 11:52 pm to DavidTheGnome
This is probably a stupid question but do these guys get paid for finding these wrecks? If so are they just paid in funds for future research projects? Or do they bring up valuable items from the wrecks and auction them off? Seems like a couple of those are too deep to do anything other than to photograph them.
Posted on 4/1/18 at 11:55 pm to DavidTheGnome
There’s a documentary on Netflix also if anyone is interested called Alien Deep starring Robert Ballard as he explores the depths of the ocean: LINK
Posted on 4/1/18 at 11:57 pm to IAmNERD
I’d imagine the are funded through grants. Not sure honestly, but it’s a very expensive endevour. The submersibles are just as amazing as the space shuttle imo.
Edit: interesting bit about the financing of exploring the Titanic
In summer 1985, Ballard was aboard the French research ship Le Suroît, which was using the side scan sonar SAR to search for the Titanic's wreck. When the French ship was recalled, he transferred onto a ship from Woods Hole, the R/V Knorr. Unbeknownst to some, this trip was financed by the U.S. Navy for secret reconnaissance of the wreckage of two Navy nuclear powered attack submarines, the USS Scorpion and the USS Thresher, which sank in the 1960s, and not for the Titanic. Back in 1982, he approached the Navy about his new deep sea underwater robot craft, the Argo, and his search for the Titanic.[4] The Navy was not interested in financing it. However, they were interested in finding out what happened to their missing submarines and ultimately concluded that Argo was their best chance to do so.[4] The Navy agreed it would finance his Titanic search only if he first searched for and investigated the two sunken submarines,[4] and found out the state of their nuclear reactors after being submerged for such a long time,[4] and whether their radioactivity was impacting the environment.[4] He was placed on temporary active duty in the Navy, in charge of finding and investigating the wrecks. After the two missions were completed, time and funding permitting, he was free to use resources to hunt for the Titanic.[4]
Edit: interesting bit about the financing of exploring the Titanic
In summer 1985, Ballard was aboard the French research ship Le Suroît, which was using the side scan sonar SAR to search for the Titanic's wreck. When the French ship was recalled, he transferred onto a ship from Woods Hole, the R/V Knorr. Unbeknownst to some, this trip was financed by the U.S. Navy for secret reconnaissance of the wreckage of two Navy nuclear powered attack submarines, the USS Scorpion and the USS Thresher, which sank in the 1960s, and not for the Titanic. Back in 1982, he approached the Navy about his new deep sea underwater robot craft, the Argo, and his search for the Titanic.[4] The Navy was not interested in financing it. However, they were interested in finding out what happened to their missing submarines and ultimately concluded that Argo was their best chance to do so.[4] The Navy agreed it would finance his Titanic search only if he first searched for and investigated the two sunken submarines,[4] and found out the state of their nuclear reactors after being submerged for such a long time,[4] and whether their radioactivity was impacting the environment.[4] He was placed on temporary active duty in the Navy, in charge of finding and investigating the wrecks. After the two missions were completed, time and funding permitting, he was free to use resources to hunt for the Titanic.[4]
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:01 am
Posted on 4/1/18 at 11:58 pm to DavidTheGnome
On a semi related note, J.G. Ballard is one hell of an author
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:02 am to IAmNERD
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This is probably a stupid question but do these guys get paid for finding these wrecks? If so are they just paid in funds for future research projects? Or do they bring up valuable items from the wrecks and auction them off? Seems like a couple of those are too deep to do anything other than to photograph them.
In the case of the Titanic they were testing a towed sonar array for the Navy who was paying the bills, and what better way to test the equipment than use it to try and find the Titanic. Other discoveries have probably also been in conjunction with some type of research, but after he gained some fame with Titanic some ventures were privately funded for ther value as a documentary that could be sold to the History Channel or something like that.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 12:04 am
Posted on 4/2/18 at 12:07 am to EA6B
Sub he used
DSV Alvin
Alvin (DSV-2) is a manned deep-ocean research submersible owned by the United States Navy and operated by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. The vehicle was built by General Mills' Electronics Group[2] in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Named to honor the prime mover and creative inspiration for the vehicle, Allyn Vine, Alvin was commissioned on 5 June 1964. The submersible is launched from the deep submergence support vessel RV Atlantis (AGOR-25), which is also owned by the U.S. Navy and operated by WHOI. The submersible has made more than 4,400 dives, carrying two scientists and a pilot, to observe the lifeforms that must cope with super-pressures and move about in total darkness, as well as exploring the wreck of Titanic. Research conducted by Alvin has been featured in nearly 2,000 scientific papers.
DSV Alvin
Alvin (DSV-2) is a manned deep-ocean research submersible owned by the United States Navy and operated by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. The vehicle was built by General Mills' Electronics Group[2] in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Named to honor the prime mover and creative inspiration for the vehicle, Allyn Vine, Alvin was commissioned on 5 June 1964. The submersible is launched from the deep submergence support vessel RV Atlantis (AGOR-25), which is also owned by the U.S. Navy and operated by WHOI. The submersible has made more than 4,400 dives, carrying two scientists and a pilot, to observe the lifeforms that must cope with super-pressures and move about in total darkness, as well as exploring the wreck of Titanic. Research conducted by Alvin has been featured in nearly 2,000 scientific papers.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 6:10 am to DavidTheGnome
All it takes is money to do all of those things.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:10 am to IAmNERD
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:17 am to DavidTheGnome
He spoke at a conference in NOLA a few years ago. Absolutely amazing guy.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:18 am to DavidTheGnome
Deep water gives me the heebiegeebies something fierce. You couldn’t pay me a large enough sum to go down in one of those little subs.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 7:19 am to DavidTheGnome
I had one of his school-age books when I was in 3rd grade or so. The cover was one of those wide shots of the whole bow resting on the ocean floor. It was one of the first pictures I ever saw where I seriously wondered whether or not it was real. Awesome read.
I've been pretty fascinated by Ballard and the Titanic ever since. This would've been around '94.
EDIT: Im pretty sure it was this book: Finding the Titanic
I've been pretty fascinated by Ballard and the Titanic ever since. This would've been around '94.
EDIT: Im pretty sure it was this book: Finding the Titanic
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 7:24 am
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:22 am to DavidTheGnome
So did they ever dig around in the Lusitania and find all the munitions and other support material the U.S. were sneaking to the Brits despite denials?
The Germs knew. They even warned passengers with an ad in the NYT. Of course we ran with faux outrage to gin up support for the war. ala WMD/Iraq, ala Tonkin/'Nam.
Same shite. Different war.
The Germs knew. They even warned passengers with an ad in the NYT. Of course we ran with faux outrage to gin up support for the war. ala WMD/Iraq, ala Tonkin/'Nam.
Same shite. Different war.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 10:23 am
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:27 am to DavidTheGnome
The ships look like little toys In these photos
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:44 am to DavidTheGnome
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underwater archaeology
Before I got into law school I was headed to AnM for their masters program in underwater archaeology. They flew us up to Woods Hole and we got to spend the whole day with Dr. Ballard. Very down to earth and very interested in what everyone's motivation was for that program.
And as you can imagine one of those people that has a top gear most dont have.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:51 am to Lakeboy7
While the expeditions were legit, the earlier ones were also cover for Naval intelligence missions. Titanic in particular was discovered during a search for the wrecks of two Soviet submarines known to be lost in the same area.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:54 am to Jim Rockford
When I think under water archaeology - actually I have never thought it but if I did - Texas A&M would not be the first school that pops into mind.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:57 am to DavidTheGnome
Before him, finding a shipwreck was like finding a needle in a haystack.
He developed a theory that a ship wreck would leave debris within a radius of the wreck. So instead of looking for the ship, you looked for items that may have been scattered on the decent of the ship to the bottom. Once you find some debris, you map it out and it eventually brings you to the ship wreck.
It’s actually quite genius.
He developed a theory that a ship wreck would leave debris within a radius of the wreck. So instead of looking for the ship, you looked for items that may have been scattered on the decent of the ship to the bottom. Once you find some debris, you map it out and it eventually brings you to the ship wreck.
It’s actually quite genius.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 10:58 am
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:59 am to Morty
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Texas A&M would not be the first school that pops into mind.
Right, when I came through in the early 90s they were the only school that offered maritime archaeology. Still the big dog in that field.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:11 am to DavidTheGnome
When I was in the 5th grade, I found this book by Robert Ballard in the school library, and it started a life-long fascination of the Titanic for me.
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