re: DOW Chemical is the poster child for Woke Corporate governance

First company to ban smoking everywhere onsite and in company owned vehicles. Lots of employees and contractor workers would line the streets outside each plant taking unscheduled smoke breaks

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I mean, it's a fricking chemical plant.
Smoking is banned for good reason.

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It's obvious that you have never been in one. There were smoking stands away from process areas. When I was in CA smoking had just been banned in offices statewide. To get any decision made, you had to go to the smoking stand. Then Shell safety approved a smoking stand in a breezeway and placed a desk there. All safety permits were obtained there.


Fast forward to a few years ago when a safety man called out a van with a man smoking in it at a chemical plant near Lake Charles after all the smoking onside was banned. Well, the man smoking was the CEO/largest stockholder of the company and the safety man had to find another job. Also, the smoking stands were all reopened.

Phucking Karens are not tolerated by working people

Are you familiar with the root cause of woke corporate governance? King B. H. Obama mandated to the stock exchanges that all corporations which are traded on that particular exchange WILL appoint woke types to your board pronto or you will not be publically traded any longer. At that point in time every corporation should have told his lordship to pound sand. However, they love gub-ment money and nodded and fell in line for the king.

The fact of the matter is a lot of the blue collar workers smoke. It is what it is. And for a company to just come out and say no smoking anywhere is just stupid. There are plenty of safe spaces away from process units where they can smoke.
I used to work for a big government contractor and the man in charge just decided one day he didn’t like seeing their cigarette bitts on the ground so he banned all smoking on site. 15 welders working on a project all walked off the job. The man in charge didn’t give a shite because it wasn’t his money that was needed to get new welders in place and test them.

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never been in one.... chemical plant.... smoking

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phucking Karen's are not tolerated by working people

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I've worked for chemical and refining companies for over a decade.

It's not their job to setup accommodations for people to smoke. You wanna smoke? Do it after work. It's another thing to worry about, just ban the activity and be done with it.

I guess I'm a "Karen" because I don't see the benefit of people lighting up on company property?

You sound very bitter towards professional employees?

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I've worked for chemical and refining companies for over a decade.

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Definitely not experienced then.as a pup.

They all had smoking stations when regular scheduled breaks occurred. Smokers could go to the stations if they wanted to. EVERY LAST PLANT had these since at least 1974 from my own experience. They were not smoking in process areas and weren't taking a break to smoke when non smokers were not allowed to take a break.

Savvy maintenance supervisors even would tell welders working inside of hydrotreater reactors to not leave any butts behind. Most of the welders were smoking inside their welding masks anyway. FWIW, these are chrome moly steel with stainless overlay to begin with.

Definitely a Karen.

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Our most productive meetings were at the smoke stand outside. Real decisions were made there

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LOL
I’ve flown offshore a few times to visit the rigs and I heard several times on both trips that if you want to find out the latest news and rumors you go visit the smoking area.

Dow Plaquemine was a dumpster fire 35 years ago when I worked there. I can't imagine how far down the shite hole it is now.