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Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:35 am to summersausage
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That's absolute bullshite.
My dog knows the sound of cheese opening. She doesn't have to re "learn" it everyday.
You misunderstand. Episodic memory is the ability to recall events of the past. They can still be conditioned to react (e.g. Pavlov's dogs).
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:37 am to rbWarEagle
quote:Seems to correlate with MEMORY. I have a fence collar on my dog daily, and if I didn't put it on him tomorrow morning, he would still stay in the yard. He REMEMBERS what happens at the fence line.
Conditioning.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:39 am to rbWarEagle
I'm gonna ask my dog when I get home if he remembers the score of the Pel's games last night.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:39 am to Darth_Vader
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Dogs don't remember what happened yesterday
Well that sounds like every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday morning for me in college. So I don't see the big deal.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:39 am to SCwTiger
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Seems to correlate with MEMORY. I have a fence collar on my dog daily, and if I didn't put it on him tomorrow morning, he would still stay in the yard. He REMEMBERS what happens at the fence line.
There is an association with walking past the fence line and getting the shite shocked out of him. That isn't episodic memory. The amygdala handles this function.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:40 am to Fearthehat0307
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if dogs don't remember what happened yesterday how do they remember or recognize anything that has occurred before today?
BOOM!
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:42 am to rbWarEagle
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They can still be conditioned to react
I hear what you're saying, but conditioning would seem to imply repeat instances in order to develop said reaction.
The vet for example. The dog can be conditioned to a negative response with 3-4 visits over a span of 5-6 years? That seems difficult to believe.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they remember all 5-10 minutes of a singular event. But they have to have "flashes" of memory. They don't remember the whole "episode" (as implied by the article), but they remember important highlights, which means "dogs don't remember what happened yesterday" isn't exactly accurate. IMO.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:43 am to Wtodd
I also had a dog that was hit by a vehicle. After that one time experience, he would start shaking when we were near the area it happened. Is that conditioning?
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:44 am to bawbarn
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I also had a dog that was hit by a vehicle. After that one time experience, would start shaking when we were near the area it happened. Is that conditioning?
That is a fear response by the amygdala.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:47 am to Darth_Vader
If a dog doesn't plan for tomorrow, then why do they bury bones in the yard?
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:47 am to rbWarEagle
Or he remembered he got hit by a fricking vehicle in that location. 
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:48 am to stonedbegonias
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If a dog doesn't plan for tomorrow, then why do they bury bones in the yard?
Canine instinct?
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:50 am to bawbarn
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Or he remembered he got hit by a fricking vehicle in that location.
You underestimate the power of sub cortex brain areas.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:50 am to MSMHater
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Canine instinct?
Bingo.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:53 am to rbWarEagle
Everything a dog does can be attributed to canine instinct, correct?
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:53 am to Darth_Vader
Bull shite
My dog remebers. My dog even rembers sounds of certain cars and gets escited or barks depending on who is pulling up before even seeing the car.
When the main mailman comes, she never barks, when the other mail lady comes she goes crazy like she does for the UPS guy.
She has areas on walks were she looks for other dogs when we near friend's houses.
S
You could show me 100 examples saying this, and I will know my dog has a memory.
My dog remebers. My dog even rembers sounds of certain cars and gets escited or barks depending on who is pulling up before even seeing the car.
When the main mailman comes, she never barks, when the other mail lady comes she goes crazy like she does for the UPS guy.
She has areas on walks were she looks for other dogs when we near friend's houses.
S
You could show me 100 examples saying this, and I will know my dog has a memory.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:54 am to summersausage
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That's absolute bullshite.
My dog knows the sound of cheese opening. She doesn't have to re "learn" it everyday.
This too, so many things I see every day that tell me my dog remembers things.
Hel the sound of her leash makes her go crazy, do I have to re-teach her that sound every day/
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:55 am to Darth_Vader
Don't believe.
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