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re: Does it offend you when people say/write 'Xmas'

Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:44 pm to
In times of persecution in the past. X stood for Christ.

They used it to avoid persecution.

Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

In times of persecution in the past. X stood for Christ.

They used it to avoid persecution.



Pussy liberals
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:55 pm to
No. I'm not fricking retarded
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:59 pm to
X means Christ...

We literally go through this every year.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:01 pm to
Let's keep the Chi in Christos this Xmas season.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

quote: What bothers me is that the Christmas isn't pronounced ChrIst-mas. How did it go from chrIst to chrYst? Doesn't make any fricking sense IMO.
caveat: I only had one semester of Old English.

It's from the Old English Cristes moeses (sp?). The I is actually like the "ee" sound in "feet" in the OE. So, it would be "chree-stes."
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:21 am to
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Christmas is not about the birth of Christ?



Society did not always value birthdays as our society does. Nobody knows exactly when Christ was born, because it wasn't really an important thing to write down. It was about as important as knowing when Jesus went through puberty. Both historical records and Biblical clues agree that it was likely a much earlier birth.

When Christ was born the Romans were obviously the reigning power in that part of the world, and the Romans had two winter celebration holidays -- Saturnalia, in honor of the god Saturn, and Natalis Sol Invictus, in honor of the Sol, or the sun. Outside of the Romans, pretty much every other civilization on Earth had their own winter celebrations too. It is a convenient time to do so when you consider the agricultural calendar--the fall harvest is over and now is the time with nothing to do and plenty of time to be merry and relax.

When the early Christians tried to convert the pagans, very few pagans wanted to give up their fun and enjoyable pagan winter celebrations. So began the mythology of the nativity, Jesus's birth, and so forth. Instead of "hey, give up your awesome winter celebrations!" the conversion tactics became "hey, stop worshiping false gods and celebrate the birth of Jesus instead!"

And so here we are today. Atheists and others may not believe in Christ, but just like the pagans before, no matter what the religious significance behind the celebrations might be, people just want to have an opportunity in the winter to take it easy. To drink and be merry. To be with their relatives. To spend time with the kids. To give and be generous. After all, during the Roman pagan holiday of Saturnalia, the Roman masters and slaves would reverse roles, the masters would serve the slaves instead.

It's really an an awesome time of year, and we should embrace loving each other and having a good time versus bickering with each other over what the significance behind any of it is.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:41 am to
Awesome post
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:29 am to
Thanks
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:35 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:38 am to
I agree with Carson 100%. Fantastic post.

I'm a Christian and of course value the religious significance of Christmas, but I honestly care about the non-religious aspects of the holiday season just as much (if not more).

The specifics of when Christ was born are largely irrelevant when it comes to celebrating his advent. So, too, the specifics of why folks are in a celebratory mood are irrelevant to me.

Christian, atheist, or otherwise, I hope y'all have a safe and happy holiday season
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
14677 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:45 am to
It offends me that most people believe a human was born without the mother having intercourse. I admit, i was not a science major, but that sure does seem physically impossible to me. Guess im a scrooge.
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:47 am to
Happy holidays is the real shitter...
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 6:10 am to
quote:

having a good time versus bickering with each other


Why do these two have to be mutually exclusive? Perhaps bickering is a good time for some of us. Especially now, in the coldest time of year, it's important to hold on to your hate because it keeps you warm.

So whether you're anti or pro Christmas, please keep the war going. After all, the war on christmas IS the reason for the season.
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