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Does anybody else find it weird how Wikipedia describes fake wrestler's accomplishments?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:13 pm
They just list them the same as they would a real sport.
They never mention the nature of the show.
It's weird when I go there to read about a wrestler that has just died.
They never mention the nature of the show.
It's weird when I go there to read about a wrestler that has just died.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 9:15 pm
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:15 pm to LakeViewLSU
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They just list them the same as they would a real sport.
They never mention the nature of the show.
It's weird when I read about a wrestler that has just died.
Im not a wrestling fan but their championships are directly proportional to their talent.
A heavy weight championship is the equivalent of an oscar in the wrestling world
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:16 pm to LakeViewLSU
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Does anybody else find it weird how Wikipedia describes fake wrestler's accomplishments?
Yes, but I find entertainment rasslin' to be weird to begin with. I don't get the appeal. Kind of like NASCAR. Watching half naked men "wrestling" is about as weird and unappealing as watching cars drive in circles for hours.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:17 pm to LakeViewLSU
Maybe if you donated to Wikipedia, it would change.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:17 pm to CottonWasKing
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Im not a wrestling fan but their championships are directly proportional to their talent. A heavy weight championship is the equivalent of an oscar in the wrestling world
I'll be completely honest, I've never thought about it this way. You are saying that the wrestlers who can make it seem the most realistic, usually are promoted to champions?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:17 pm to LakeViewLSU
No.
Next question.
Next question.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:20 pm to LakeViewLSU
No, at least in WWE, popularity has a lot more to do with success than talent. That popularity may be with either the fans or just with Vince McMahon, occasionally both.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:22 pm to Brosef Stalin
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No, at least in WWE, popularity has a lot more to do with success
Success how?
ETA. Success in popularity. Got it.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:22 pm to LakeViewLSU
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You are saying that the wrestlers who can make it seem the most realistic, usually are promoted to champions?
Exactly. The ones who can both create an interesting relatable (or despicable) character and sell their in ring abilities become the greatest faces and heels (good guys and bad guys) in the eyes of the fans.
Therefore their matches draws more views and makes for more compelling storylines so they are made champions.
Those belts are their oscars.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:24 pm to LakeViewLSU
Back in the day, the NWA title was given to the best wrestler who could cut the best promos, and have a good match with anyone in a number of territories.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:24 pm to LakeViewLSU
Success as in who gets titles and who gets pushed as a star.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:25 pm to CottonWasKing
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Exactly. The ones who can both create an interesting relatable (or despicable) character and sell their in ring abilities become the greatest faces and heels (good guys and bad guys) in the eyes of the fans. Therefore their matches draws more views and makes for more compelling storylines so they are made champions. Those belts are their oscars.
I understand. i still don't think that makes Wikipedia's bios any less weird, considering a person with no knowledge wouldnt be able to tell the difference between it and any real sport.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:27 pm to LakeViewLSU
Look at Daniel Day Lewis's wiki page.
Doesnt it list all of his awards?
Wrestlers are just athletic theater kids. Stop thinking of the page as an athletes page and start thinking of it as an actors page and itll make way more sense.
Doesnt it list all of his awards?
Wrestlers are just athletic theater kids. Stop thinking of the page as an athletes page and start thinking of it as an actors page and itll make way more sense.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:30 pm to CottonWasKing
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Wrestlers are just athletic theater kids. Stop thinking of the page as an athletes page and start thinking of it as an actors page and itll make way more sense.
That's exactly my point. It is weird that there is no mention of it being in this manner. They don't separate it from regular sports at all.
I will say, that I might try to watch a couple shows to see if I can detect the more talented actors/athletes.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:37 pm to LakeViewLSU
Someone like Brad Armstrong was a much better in ring performer than Goldberg. However, Goldberg had much more charisma, popularity, and drew people to the arena more than Armstrong. Which is why Goldberg was a champ. In that case, the actor comparison would be Armstrong= method actor who is well respected. Goldberg= Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, etc.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:38 pm to LakeViewLSU
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That's exactly my point. It is weird that there is no mention of it being in this manner. They don't separate it from regular sports at all.
Well my guess would be that its one of those things they assume the reader knows, and if the reader doesnt know then they'd rather not ruin the magic.
I mean wiki never comes out and actually says that Santa Claus isnt real either.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:41 pm to LakeViewLSU
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fake wrestler's accomplishments?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:50 pm to LakeViewLSU
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I'll be completely honest, I've never thought about it this way. You are saying that the wrestlers who can make it seem the most realistic, usually are promoted to champions?
Guys like Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, and The Rock didn't make it to the top b/c they had the most technical skill.
They won the mob and the crown through their pure charisma.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:58 pm to LakeViewLSU
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They never mention the nature of the show.
quote:Well, ain't that something?
Professional wrestling (often shortened to pro wrestling or simply wrestling) is a form of performance art
Posted on 1/12/18 at 9:59 pm to Dr RC
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Guys like Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, and The Rock didn't make it to the top b/c they had the most technical skill.
They won the mob and the crown through their pure charisma.
To be fair it was a mixture of both.
They were entertaining both in the ring and in their promos. It takes more to be a great wrestler than just technical chops.
I like the music analogy. Yngwie Malmsteem is a great guitarist but there is a reason Jimi Hendrix was more successful.
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