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re: Do you work in I.T.? If yes, what capacity?
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:51 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:51 pm to fallguy_1978
I cover three enterprise customers in the DFW area.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:52 pm to mikelbr
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In the last 7 years I've noticed my bosses are now younger than me.
My last 2 bosses have been younger than me. I don't give a shite. Let them deal with it. I know what that job pays and it's not that much more than a SR architect/engineer
20% more pay for 300% more headache
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:53 pm to Naked Bootleg
Been in “IT” sales for 17 years. Really more on the digital consulting sales side of it now. “IT” is a commodity at this point. Love what I do.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:53 pm to deeprig9
Don’t use vEdges!!!
I guess we can’t make fun of customers that let certs expire anymore…LOL
I guess we can’t make fun of customers that let certs expire anymore…LOL
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:02 pm to Porpus
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but whenever it came time to drum up some cash it was back to disgusting old C#.
That's because whenever you want to actually get something done and not have to fight with things you like to take for granted, C# is where to go.

Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:02 pm to Naked Bootleg
I am a Sr IT Manager for a major airline. I support a product portfolio that deals with all pilot technology and training. We have 22 different applications in the portfolio which range from old mainframe TFS, to java MS Azure cloud applications, to COTS apps. I got my degree in M.I.S. from La Tech and have been in this my entire career. I've changed industries from Insurance, to O&G to airline, but the job has remained basically the same. Also enjoy the free flights.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:06 pm to FriscoTiger
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Don’t use vEdges!!!
I guess we can’t make fun of customers that let certs expire anymore…LOL
So the business model is to sell them the latest greatest shite for millions and millions of dollars, then stop supporting it 3 years later so they scramble to buy and implement new shite, that you will pull the same scam on 3 years later. Do I have that right?
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:08 pm to Naked Bootleg
Network engineer here. Been doing this for about almost two years but been in OT for about 12 years or so. I like networking the best out of everything I’ve done.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:09 pm to deeprig9
Don't worry - you'll have a different Client Exec at that point
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:10 pm to LemmyLives
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You should have seen the email I sent last night about using our internal systems to enter my time... For a technical example of ineptitude, the company portal cannot be accessed unless you explicitly specify HTTPS Colon FarkedcompanyPortal Dot com. How to force connections to default to HTTPS was something I learned more than 20 years ago (it was a single line in an IOS config). But our infrastructure team can't manage to figure it out, and they also don't think it's a usability problem for hundreds of thousands of employees.
I sat in a prep meeting for orals at a potential client, and pointed out that the team had a list on a slide that switched between numbers and bullets *in the same list* and that they needed to change it before we showed it to the client (energy sector, heavily regulated.) They ignored me. We won the bid anyway.
This has to be either TCS or Atos.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:15 pm to Naked Bootleg
I've been in IT for over 30 years. I've done a little of everything. Started with MS-DOS connecting PCs to Novell Netware and IBM AS/400s. The people I worked for realized that I could make them all talk to each other, sorta (not really, but I moved the network to TCP/IP when the world was running flavors of IPX/SPX, twinax/balun, and token ring). I was working for a TPA firm in insurance when I started right out of college. Lucked into my first real IT gig, really. I was a PC kid who got exposed to midrange systems at the enterprise level in the early 90's.
I got fairly good at adhoc reporting when the canned reports baked into mid-range software packages really sucked, and commissioning reports from software vendors would cost thousands of dollars. I would download the data into FoxPro (which was acquired by Microsoft for the database engine and shortly thereafter adapted for MS Access) and deliver report data exported to Excel or Lotus 1-2-3. The finance and accounting teams could work directly with real data in spreadsheets for themselves. They loved this. Seriously. At the time, reports were delivered on reams of greenbar paper printed on noisy dot-matrix printers that took up half the room. I gave them something they could actually use.
I got two bachelors degrees in the early 90's, pre-Internet: one in Management (IS Concentration); the other in what was a precursor to what is now called ISDS or CIS (called BADCS, short for Business Administration/Computer Science Option). Plenty of core business classes and plenty of coding. I was a young computer kid who could speak fairly authoritatively to accountants and actuaries. I understood statistics, at least at the undergraduate level, so I could deliver financial data and actuarial models in a fraction of the time it took them to pay outside firms to develop the data themselves.
I hated every minute of the actual work, but I was getting paid to play with technology, which I actually loved.
After four years, I'd had enough of working for a company that had run into problems with the insurance funds it managed. I quit and went to work for a startup that didn't last. I then got lucky and fell into a gig in hospitality. (I actually fired off a cover letter and resume to an ad in the newspaper and got a call to interview.) Same sort of technology, different gig. Plenty of awesome and talented people. Grew with it for two decades. Learned more networking, guest facing technology, and wireless, wireless, wireless. Everything wireless. Cellular, DAS deployments, zigby, microwave, satellite, and, of course, WiFi. I also ran the teams supporting several states. I loved it, but the pandemic decimated the industry, and my job went with it.
Found myself working for an energy services company. Operation Technology and IT, though I'm not an industrial controls guy by training, I understand the fundamentals. In IT, we do our best to move data securely and keep out the riff raff. I've risen to VP, but likely because I am steeped in vendor management and running teams--not because I'm still a hotshot kid on the bleeding edge.
I've consulted here and there. Did some work for Entergy, for an auto dealership group, attorneys. Whoever needed some help when I had the time.
I have no regrets about IT. I still like to tinker with stuff. My home network is the tits. Gear overkill. I ran fiber between switches because why not, with real wireless access points, not the horseshite you buy at Best Buy.
I don't like writing code because I don't do it often enough to maintain speed and proficiency, but I still surprise myself sometimes. I never wanted to be a programmer.
I got fairly good at adhoc reporting when the canned reports baked into mid-range software packages really sucked, and commissioning reports from software vendors would cost thousands of dollars. I would download the data into FoxPro (which was acquired by Microsoft for the database engine and shortly thereafter adapted for MS Access) and deliver report data exported to Excel or Lotus 1-2-3. The finance and accounting teams could work directly with real data in spreadsheets for themselves. They loved this. Seriously. At the time, reports were delivered on reams of greenbar paper printed on noisy dot-matrix printers that took up half the room. I gave them something they could actually use.
I got two bachelors degrees in the early 90's, pre-Internet: one in Management (IS Concentration); the other in what was a precursor to what is now called ISDS or CIS (called BADCS, short for Business Administration/Computer Science Option). Plenty of core business classes and plenty of coding. I was a young computer kid who could speak fairly authoritatively to accountants and actuaries. I understood statistics, at least at the undergraduate level, so I could deliver financial data and actuarial models in a fraction of the time it took them to pay outside firms to develop the data themselves.
I hated every minute of the actual work, but I was getting paid to play with technology, which I actually loved.
After four years, I'd had enough of working for a company that had run into problems with the insurance funds it managed. I quit and went to work for a startup that didn't last. I then got lucky and fell into a gig in hospitality. (I actually fired off a cover letter and resume to an ad in the newspaper and got a call to interview.) Same sort of technology, different gig. Plenty of awesome and talented people. Grew with it for two decades. Learned more networking, guest facing technology, and wireless, wireless, wireless. Everything wireless. Cellular, DAS deployments, zigby, microwave, satellite, and, of course, WiFi. I also ran the teams supporting several states. I loved it, but the pandemic decimated the industry, and my job went with it.
Found myself working for an energy services company. Operation Technology and IT, though I'm not an industrial controls guy by training, I understand the fundamentals. In IT, we do our best to move data securely and keep out the riff raff. I've risen to VP, but likely because I am steeped in vendor management and running teams--not because I'm still a hotshot kid on the bleeding edge.
I've consulted here and there. Did some work for Entergy, for an auto dealership group, attorneys. Whoever needed some help when I had the time.
I have no regrets about IT. I still like to tinker with stuff. My home network is the tits. Gear overkill. I ran fiber between switches because why not, with real wireless access points, not the horseshite you buy at Best Buy.
I don't like writing code because I don't do it often enough to maintain speed and proficiency, but I still surprise myself sometimes. I never wanted to be a programmer.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:22 pm to BoudreauxsCousin
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and IBM AS/400s
OG IT

Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:23 pm to Centinel
I may or may not have worked for IBM
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:25 pm to BoudreauxsCousin
Operational Technology and Industrial Controls is, in my opinion, where there is still a foreseeable future for a cabling tradesman. It's in very high demand. It's all out of band, it's all open/closed logic, and all critical to any DR situation, and isn't taken over by Mexicans yet. If my kid was 18 and didn't want to go the college route, and if he was interesting in my advice, I'd put right into industrial controls and operational technology. It's stuff than AI can't do and India can't do. You need a competent person with boots on the ground to do, and program.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:25 pm to mjthe
We talking IBM AS/400, or IBM QRadar?
There is a massive difference.
There is a massive difference.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:25 pm to Naked Bootleg
I somehow as a student ended up becoming a co-sysadmin for a small state office (~55 users). We had a domain controller, Active Directory, hosted a mail server, migrated all of that from Novell to windows at some point. Also moved the office from being on 2 separate floors (7 and 12 at that at the old Wooddale Tower) and moved it downtown. When we moved downtown, we gave up control of the infrastructure part (they had all the switches and drops, we had to move our network inside of theirs (IE, our 10.1.xxx—>10.38.xxx). We also had like 5 different large tower servers and had to virtualize them into a rackmount, so I got pretty hands on with VMware. We kept tape backups, so a significant part of my job was to walk or drive offsite to make daily/weekly/monthly/annual backups.
We hosted a few petty crummy applications (they required Windows 2000 in 2011) that were written for us before my time there.
Now I’m in private practice. I actually physically wired my space myself (17 pairs of drops, 2 Access points), set up a dual WAN router for uptime, have a little network share, web filter, will probably take over VOIP from my current provider in the next 12 months (I’ve tested it at home but am just nervous about actual clinical duties in a SHTF situation, but my current provider response time sort of sucks, and when my VOIP goes down with two functioning internet connections that have acceptable speed/ping and both connections get blamed (with no real good explanation other than “try switching ISP” which also doesn’t work, but internet still sings), I get sort of annoyed).
I tried to convince the owner of my building (a doctor and a friend) to move to building-wide network, and I offered to manage it so we could, for cheap, move to a pair of gig connections + cellular backup. Price per price would probably go down somewhat, but reliability would have been significantly higher, but he didn’t understand what I was talking about until after the walls were up and everyone had the cable company come in and run rg6 to the 9 or so different suites. I helped him do the same in another multi-tenant building he owns, and now he finally realizes what the benefit is, and it’s not too late, but I’m not going around convincing everyone to consolidate and am willing to pay for what I’ve got myself.
I feel l like I just barely make it into the club.
We hosted a few petty crummy applications (they required Windows 2000 in 2011) that were written for us before my time there.
Now I’m in private practice. I actually physically wired my space myself (17 pairs of drops, 2 Access points), set up a dual WAN router for uptime, have a little network share, web filter, will probably take over VOIP from my current provider in the next 12 months (I’ve tested it at home but am just nervous about actual clinical duties in a SHTF situation, but my current provider response time sort of sucks, and when my VOIP goes down with two functioning internet connections that have acceptable speed/ping and both connections get blamed (with no real good explanation other than “try switching ISP” which also doesn’t work, but internet still sings), I get sort of annoyed).
I tried to convince the owner of my building (a doctor and a friend) to move to building-wide network, and I offered to manage it so we could, for cheap, move to a pair of gig connections + cellular backup. Price per price would probably go down somewhat, but reliability would have been significantly higher, but he didn’t understand what I was talking about until after the walls were up and everyone had the cable company come in and run rg6 to the 9 or so different suites. I helped him do the same in another multi-tenant building he owns, and now he finally realizes what the benefit is, and it’s not too late, but I’m not going around convincing everyone to consolidate and am willing to pay for what I’ve got myself.
I feel l like I just barely make it into the club.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:26 pm to Centinel
Oh, the stories I can tell you my pal Centinel
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:34 pm to deeprig9
One of those companies I work for, the other has been added to my list of places never to bother applying at. 

Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:35 pm to Naked Bootleg
Systems integrator. Started off learning fiber termination while attempting a Computer Science degree. Blew off college and immersed myself in the broad branch of low voltage systems. Now I design and maintain A/V, surveillance, access control, and pure data systems, with an extremely flexible schedule. I’m comfortable with my living and the accommodation has been great, given I am currently a single parent.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:38 pm to LemmyLives
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One of those companies I work for, the other has been added to my list of places never to bother applying at.
I have worked for both.
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