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Do you think police get PTSD like soldiers?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:09 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:09 am
Wonder what your thoughts are on this.
Police lose partners to death, they see horrific things that people shouldn't have to, the suicide rate is high. Think maybe a lot are suffering from PTSD?
Police lose partners to death, they see horrific things that people shouldn't have to, the suicide rate is high. Think maybe a lot are suffering from PTSD?
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:11 am to BFANLC
Yes. They also get conditioned
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:13 am to BFANLC
Absolutely. Firefighters as well. Probably less during actual fires, but they see plenty of horrific stuff at car accident sites, etc.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:15 am to jmarto1
What do you mean by conditioned?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:16 am to BFANLC
Yes PTSD can happen to anyone in any walk of life. It is just more known in combat vets for obvious reasons.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:16 am to CantBreak80
I'm wondering if this is a part of the issue we are seeing.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:17 am to AUstar
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combat vets
Is the battle for the streets considered a war?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:19 am to BFANLC
Thinking about all the dogs that got away..
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:19 am to BFANLC
quote:
m wondering if this is a part of the issue we are seeing.
What issue are you talking about?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:22 am to BFANLC
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What do you mean by conditioned
He means they get used to seeing bad shite. They develop apathy towards things that would seriously bother your every day person.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:29 am to BFANLC
There is zero question they do.
A related topic is deploy to dwell ration. When I was in the Army we looked for a 1:3 deploy to dwell though if your unit was one that was a limited asset you might get closer to 1:2. Even counting weekends along with vacation and training Police are approaching 2:1 or 6 times what is considered ideal for the military. If you just look at deploy to training the number gets ridiculous in comparison.
A related topic is deploy to dwell ration. When I was in the Army we looked for a 1:3 deploy to dwell though if your unit was one that was a limited asset you might get closer to 1:2. Even counting weekends along with vacation and training Police are approaching 2:1 or 6 times what is considered ideal for the military. If you just look at deploy to training the number gets ridiculous in comparison.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:30 am to BFANLC
Of course...you never know what call a cop has just come from to come help you in your worst moment, then they get to take that home immediately.
Soldiers/Marines have a little breathing room between home and the FOB that might allow them to process what they experienced over the last 6-12 months.
Soldiers/Marines have a little breathing room between home and the FOB that might allow them to process what they experienced over the last 6-12 months.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 1:32 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:32 am to CantBreak80
Which could be a problem.
Is PTSD involving law enforcement minimized by outsiders? Is it not considered as extensive or mentally debilitating as what a soldier may get?
Is PTSD involving law enforcement minimized by outsiders? Is it not considered as extensive or mentally debilitating as what a soldier may get?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:35 am to BFANLC
Of course they do. Cops especially in these big liberals cities put up with a lot of shite
Probably a main reason why they are so quick to fire they know there's a chance they could get killed anytime they try to arrest some pos criminal
Probably a main reason why they are so quick to fire they know there's a chance they could get killed anytime they try to arrest some pos criminal
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:36 am to BFANLC
I know cops and firemen who have been referred to ptsd counseling. I think they actually go to the local VA.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:40 am to BFANLC
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Which could be a problem.
Is PTSD involving law enforcement minimized by outsiders? Is it not considered as extensive or mentally debilitating as what a soldier may get?
I still don’t know what you’re getting at here. Is it an issue they have to deal with on a personal level? Yes. Is it something that is considered by the average American when talking about police? No. Are you trying to relate ptsd to some of these shite bags getting killed by police?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:46 am to Pelican fan99
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Probably a main reason why they are so quick to fire they know there's a chance they could get killed anytime they try to arrest some pos criminal
Their significantly higher training to deploy time is one reason an 18yo in the military is able to function with a no fire until fired upon ROE. I am not suggesting that be SOP for the police but training develops discipline and frontal lobe control. Lack of training lets the middle brain control situations.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:48 am to PowerTool
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I know cops and firemen who have been referred to ptsd counseling. I think they actually go to the local VA.
One of my best friends falls into this category. The counseling was a joke. Just pushed pills on him. Luckily he saw through the bullshite and got better on his own.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:49 am to BFANLC
I’m absolutely sure cops get PTSD,especially homicide detectives.Has to be horrible investigating murders especially of children.
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I’ve read some about cops,the tend to get very cynical with a warped opinion of humanity.They seem to often only want to socialize with other cops and get a we vs.them attitude about the community they serve.
I suppose it is a natural reaction to having to deal with the dregs of society on a constant basis.Even honest people often don’t treat them with respect and look down on them
It’s a crappy job I wouldn’t want to do.
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I’ve read some about cops,the tend to get very cynical with a warped opinion of humanity.They seem to often only want to socialize with other cops and get a we vs.them attitude about the community they serve.
I suppose it is a natural reaction to having to deal with the dregs of society on a constant basis.Even honest people often don’t treat them with respect and look down on them
It’s a crappy job I wouldn’t want to do.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:57 am to CantBreak80
I'm not trying to get at anything. Just asking questions. Discussion is key to understanding.
Gonna ask some more questions...have you ever seen a commercial advertising help for soldiers that have PTSD? I have...ever seen one for law enforcement?
"Issues" Is a thread for another day ;)
Gonna ask some more questions...have you ever seen a commercial advertising help for soldiers that have PTSD? I have...ever seen one for law enforcement?
"Issues" Is a thread for another day ;)
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