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re: Do we have it completely backwards when we say “kids are so soft today?”
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:43 pm to lazlodawg
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:43 pm to lazlodawg
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Nah. Most kids are Charmin soft now. They cannot handle any adversity because they've never truly faced any.
Eh, we've had baseball and flag football games and practices in the rain and the cold and I've had zero complaints from the kids. Meanwhile the parents sit in their cars with the heat blasting or tell me they won't bring their kid because it's too cold. Parents are the softer ones now, not the kids.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:43 pm to LSUBFA83
quote:This is also true
Kids today are stressed about things they shouldn't be so worried about but they are also lacking exposure to basic life skills.
Because it’s so hyper competitive to get any job now we “train kids” to get the grades and necessary checkmarks to get the job, but don’t see the forrest through the trees
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:47 pm to lsupride87
No one knew if we were "soft" because most of the time no adult knew where we were or what we were up to....and the dirty little secret none of us likes to admit is that they did not know where we were or what we were up to is because they couldn't care less where we were or what we were up to as long as it did not embarrass them, cost them any money or cause them the slightest bit of trouble or discomfort. Seriously, if you remember being a kid and staying away from home from early morning to late in the evening without an adult knowing what you were doing and where you were it is entirely possible that your parents were just shitty people who did not really care for you. If they did know the kind of shite we would be doing and did not intervene they certainly did not give a frick what happened to us, again as long as it did not embarrass them, cost them any money or inconvenience them in any way.
You get a group of people old enough to have been alive when raising children "free range style" was acceptable and inevitably they will start talking about how their parents did react when their children's activities did embarrass them, cost them some money or cause them some inconvenience. We wear the physical violence visited upon us by adults like a badge of honor because what the hell else you gonna do but admit they probably didn't give a good frick about your well being. Many our age will brag about getting seriously beaten....seriously physically abused....as if they somehow earned such treatment. Most of us simply were spanked with a belt or whatever happened to be handy....the same kind of treatment one would give a slave or a beast of burden, not normally considered something you care a lot about.
Parents today, for all the shite they take for being helicopter parents and never letting their angel out of their sight, are probably responding to an unspoken truth that their parents really did not care much for them when they were children. They are over compensating. It may well be that their children prove to be better people than those of us who were forgotten until we became a problem and then we were physically abused for not having the ability to think and reason like an adult....
You get a group of people old enough to have been alive when raising children "free range style" was acceptable and inevitably they will start talking about how their parents did react when their children's activities did embarrass them, cost them some money or cause them some inconvenience. We wear the physical violence visited upon us by adults like a badge of honor because what the hell else you gonna do but admit they probably didn't give a good frick about your well being. Many our age will brag about getting seriously beaten....seriously physically abused....as if they somehow earned such treatment. Most of us simply were spanked with a belt or whatever happened to be handy....the same kind of treatment one would give a slave or a beast of burden, not normally considered something you care a lot about.
Parents today, for all the shite they take for being helicopter parents and never letting their angel out of their sight, are probably responding to an unspoken truth that their parents really did not care much for them when they were children. They are over compensating. It may well be that their children prove to be better people than those of us who were forgotten until we became a problem and then we were physically abused for not having the ability to think and reason like an adult....
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:48 pm to AwgustaDawg
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.and the dirty little secret none of us likes to admit is that they did not know where we were or what we were up to is because they couldn't care less where we were or what we were up to as long as it did not embarrass them, cost them any money or cause them the slightest bit of trouble or discomfort. Seriously, if you remember being a kid and staying away from home from early morning to late in the evening without an adult knowing what you were doing and where you were it is entirely possible that your parents were just shitty people who did not really care for you.
You consistently post some of the dumbest shite I read here.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:57 pm to Shexter
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Parents expect, but don't want to put in the work.
Try coaching t-ball these days. At practices, it was like pulling teeth just to get these parents out on the field to throw a ball with their kid or stand in the outfield because we were short a few kids.
Yes, the parents were there
Yes, the parents were expecting success
The parents just didn't want to participate in their kids' lives. They simply wanted someone else to do the work.
Marching Band has seemed the same. Yes, the parents show up, but parent participation is sitting in the stands on their phones. The same few parents do all of the volunteer work while the rest simply drop off and pick up.
The biggest change is many parents used to not even be aware their kid was playing a sport or part of the marching band. Most parents weren't involved at all. I played football, baseball and basketball from about the age of 7 until I was a senior in high school. Most of the kids on the teams I played on never had anyone in the stands for games, they certainly never had anyone standing around at practice. My dad was an exception...he was the coach of most of the football teams I played on until about the 7th grade and was at most practices and as far as I remember missed exactly one game. He may have missed some baseball games because we played about 40 games a year LOL. Most of the kids never had anyone there.
My daughter is in the marching band. I would bet that at least half the kids in the band with her have never had a parent in the stands for a football game, let alone the many, many concerts band kids play in during the school year. The school she goes to is bigger than the one I went to in metro Atlanta....our football crowds were 2-3 times what they are today because most of the families of the players, the band and the other kids doing something on game night aren't there.
I don't know that this has changed much. I think those of us who were fortunate enough to have parents involved in our sports etc have forgotten we were not the norm....and those kids similarly situated today are certainly not the norm.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:02 pm to lsupride87
My son is 21 and looking back I was a little unfair to him at time in terms of pressuring him. (Not sports pressure)
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:03 pm to biglego
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My Texas public school 5th grade some is absolutely not doing algebra and the geometry is not advanced. Algebra is not offered. This is Katy ISD.
I graduated from a pretty good public school system in Metro Atlanta in 1983 (Cobb County). I was "gifted" and took Algebra 1 in the 8th grade. Not AP Algebra...there was no such thing. My son and daughter were both doing almost the same level of algebra in the 5th grade and by the 7th grade had moved onto Geometry. My son wound up in AP calculus by his sophomore year and my daughter is on the same path. A kid that did that in 1983 would have been tested for being a genius and would probably be offered a scholarship somewhere by their junior year. There are a BUNCH of kids right there with my daughter and there were a bunch with my son...it was kind of the norm for college bound students where getting through Algebra 1 by your senior year was considered pretty standard in 1983.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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AwgustaDawg
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You consistently post some of the dumbest shite I read here.
Criminally underrated as a horrific poster
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
“50ish year old dude who is way dumber than he thinks” might be the worst poster shtick on here. And there’s a bunch of them
AugustaDawg’s Thanksgiving dinner meltdown was entertaining as hell though
AugustaDawg’s Thanksgiving dinner meltdown was entertaining as hell though
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:10 pm to lazlodawg
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1970's/1980's Kid: Dad, I'm feeling stressed and overwhelmed about living up to the expectations that have been placed on me.
1970's/1980's Dad: What kind of gay arse talk is that? Man up, pussy, or I'll give you something to cry about.
Nah. Most kids are Charmin soft now. They cannot handle any adversity because they've never truly faced any.
Yeah, this is not exactly out of line with what most of us who were kids in the 70/80s would have experienced....how we have missed the part that a parent who would treat their child this way might simply not care much for the child is pretty damned impressive.....
I remember getting hit in the adams apple on a scorching ground ball that took a bad hop in PE softball and my 5th grade teacher, a woman in her late 60s early 70's literally slapping me about the face and neck and shoulders for making an error in a fricking PE softball game LOL....it was so bad that even the other kids, who had experienced similar treatment from multiple adults in their lives, not to mention older siblings, were left dumbfounded and struck silent...to the point that several of them apologized to me for not stepping in or simply that it happened...that is a serious arse whipping in the mid-70s that other kids would recognize it was a bit over the top. Of course I never told my dad about it because I knew full well what would have happened.
He did find out about it though....and said "I guess you will get your glove in front of the ball next time won't you".
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:13 pm to lsupride87
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1970s/1980s kid: Dad I drew a balloon and added 5+4
Dad: awesome job. Go grab me a beer and go play with your friends
I ain't sure this would transpire this way...first a kid would have learned well before being able to add 5 and 4 together to avoid speaking to Dad at all unless Dad spoke to him first. If a kid did do this though the father would most likely look dumbfounded at the kid and appear to be wondering "who the frick is this kid and why is he here telling me this shite".
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Kids now
Dad I solved the square root of 64 and won another baseball tournament
Dad: Jimmy down the street is doing pre calc already and is all star in 3 sports. Stop playing and go study more
This seems about right.....
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:16 pm to lsupride87
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At. Aloysius 2nd grade in 1994 looks like mouth drooling coursework compared to St. Aloysius 2nd grade work in 2025
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:18 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:What Catholic school education gets you
Comparing a catholic school education to public school where you can literally graduate without learning how to read seems silly.
High IQ vs Low IQ
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:20 pm to lsupride87
In general kids today have muuuch better relationships with their parents than we did.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:21 pm to OldSouth
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Sometimes I think about how often I tell my kids to “hurry up”.
I'm with you. My 4 year old started asking with anxious tone "are we going to be late, I don't want to be late" lately and I had a "you're screwing this up dude" moment.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:21 pm to lsupride87
80’s kids got into everything and did everything and their parents didn’t know where they were or what they are doing. Kids in that era all have stories of how they did totally stupid stuff and probably a few almost died stories.
My guess is a good number of those people are now parents and know the crap that can happen and they put a short leash on their kids to “protect” them. Those kids are soft because they are basically babied now and can’t learn the hard lessons on their own.
My guess is a good number of those people are now parents and know the crap that can happen and they put a short leash on their kids to “protect” them. Those kids are soft because they are basically babied now and can’t learn the hard lessons on their own.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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.and the dirty little secret none of us likes to admit is that they did not know where we were or what we were up to is because they couldn't care less where we were or what we were up to as long as it did not embarrass them, cost them any money or cause them the slightest bit of trouble or discomfort. Seriously, if you remember being a kid and staying away from home from early morning to late in the evening without an adult knowing what you were doing and where you were it is entirely possible that your parents were just shitty people who did not really care for you.
You consistently post some of the dumbest shite I read here.
You seriously have never considered that a parent who is basically unaware of where there kid is and what their kid is up to may simply not care much for the kid? It was pretty fricking obvious this was the case my friend whether you want to admit it or not.
It wasn't just not knowing where the kid was or what he was up to....that was child's play alongside the diet the kid was fed, the way he was transported from place to place, the toys he was given....seriously, I know we all like to act as if it was ideal and it was in a child's mind but there had to have been at least some level of simply not giving a frick what happened to the kid involved....there is just no way around it.
I will guarantee you this is the way people view free range parenting today....we practiced it with our son and are doing it with our daughter....and people made and make comments all the time about our kids being unsupervised.....there is a caveat to doing it today....our kids were rare specimens of free range child rearing....had there been other kids around not being supervised they may have well gotten into all manner of trouble...as it was they got bored and came home LOL....they were more or less the only kids not being constantly supervised.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:26 pm to EmperorGout
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In general kids today have muuuch better relationships with their parents than we did.
FARRRRR Better. I had a very good relationship with my parents for the era, Our kids are not afraid to voice an opinion, no how to handle a disagreement without acting like a moron, will share all manner of shite with either of us that I would not tell my parents today....their relationship with us is far better than ours was with our parents....
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:28 pm to AwgustaDawg
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You seriously have never considered that a parent who is basically unaware of where there kid is and what their kid is up to may simply not care much for the kid?
Absolutely not, because I lived it and know my parents cared. Yes I had freedom to roam the neighborhood. But I was given a good education, the opportunity to do sports/after school stuff, spent a good amount of time doing things with my parents etc. And damn near all of my friends and peers of teh time had the same.
You take is shitty. Maybe your parents didn't give a shite about you
But I know mine cared about me Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:30 pm to WigSplitta22
I agree with Wigsplitta. Somebody shoot me.
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