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Do not tow with a cyber truck?(catastrophic failure test)

Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:31 pm
Posted by rickgrimes
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:31 pm
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Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:33 pm to
FYI, Jerryrigeverything is a massive Dem. I wouldn't put it past him to be very biased against the Cyber truck and rig the test because Elon is a meanie head



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This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:38 pm to
Can't get passed about 15 seconds of the video because holy shite the guy looks like a penis



Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:41 pm to
You like that though right???
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:42 pm to
Who the frick would use a cybertruck for that.
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:44 pm to
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Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:51 pm to
Pulling straight down with an excavator does not = towing a loaded trailer. What a stupid arse video
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Whistling diesel’s tests on the cybertruck frame are pretty entertaining.


He did a good job showing the difference between bending and breaking. The mode of failure was caused by something most people would never do to their truck but it did show a weakness whether it would ever be exposed in normal use is questionable.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:55 pm to
Meh......there is plenty enough to shite on the cybertruck for. There's no need to look that hard for yet another reason.

ETA: I remember not too long ago when saying this would net many, many upvotes. Now......not so much.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted by BHM
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:57 pm to
Tow capacity and tongue weight is two different things. 11,000 pounds on the tongue would snap most truck hitches unless I am misunderstanding something.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:58 pm to
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Meh......there is plenty enough to shite on the cybertruck for. There's no need to look that hard for yet another reason.



Yea I would never buy one but if I did I don't think I would be maxing out it's towing capacity

I don't even max out my F250 and I actually use it to move equipment now and then
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:58 pm to
He should take apart a Ford 10 speed and show how many teeth come out at 50k miles or show the waste gate stuck open on the new yotas
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 7:59 pm to
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11,000 pounds on the tongue would snap most truck hitches unless I am misunderstanding something.


Aint snappin the tongue on my f350 baw
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:02 pm to
This is stupid…

Tongue weight and tow weight are two different things..
Any normal person who tows anything knows this…

Dude is getting destroyed in the comments…

Side note: found the guy who backs his boat trailer too deep on the ramp… or never towed shite in his life..

Sorry I can’t down vote you enough for posting a BS video…
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Aint snappin the tongue on my f350 baw


Either sarcasm or your knowledge of tongues is limited to "say ahhhh".

So either or depending
Posted by triggeredmillennial
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:07 pm to
Saw that douchebags video earlier. He did a great job at showing the 10x safety factor in the rated tongue weight. What a chode.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:10 pm to
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I don't even max out my F250 and I actually use it to move equipment now and then
glad you upgraded to the 250 to haul your wife around
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:11 pm to
You were funnier when you had a cocaine addiction
Posted by SmackoverHawg
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:12 pm to
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I don't think I would be maxing out it's towing capacity

I don't even max out my F250 and I actually use it to move equipment now and then

This, except I kinda want one if they can get more range and more of the bugs worked out. I'll keep my F250 though.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 8:16 pm to
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Dude is getting destroyed in the comments…



Big time


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As former test engineer who used to test trailer hitches and design tests for a big 3 automaker. Even though I greatly dislike Elon Musk. This result is quite good. You basically put almost pure tongue load on the hitch. The spec says 10% max tongue load of tow capacity. This held up to over 90% load. There is a SAE proof test that requires the hitch and frame to withstand a 1 time pull test several directions with no more then I think 5 degrees change after the tests, but it is a much smaller load then what you just did. I would be most concerned fatigue strength especially after some galvantic corrosion. Putting a steel hitch with an aluminium frame could cause this problem. The fatigue test uses much smaller loads but requires a large number of cycles. If someone were to misloaded their trailer, this bad they should be charge with manslaughter.



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I'm a retired engineer, two degrees in engineering from a major U.S. engineering program. I am not a fan of Tesla and would never buy a Tesla car, much less a Tesla truck. (I am editing my comment to say I don't know anyone at Tesla nor do I own any stock or have any financial connection. I have no vested interest in Tesla. I do know something about product-related litigation, however. I am also editing my comment to say that I just did see the long comment mentioning the SAE standard.)

I don't have time to read through 2000 comments, so I am commenting to tell you that your test is completely invalid relative to towing load. If the Tesla towing limit is 11,000 (11K) lbs., your "assumption" that a poorly-loaded trailer hitting a pothole, or a trailer cresting a hill, could ever transfer anything close to 11K to the vertical tongue load is ridiculous and false. Your conclusion that Tesla needs to "do something" is wrong, being completely based on this false assumption. You need to have an actual engineer (a mechanical engineer would be ideal) review your video and do some basic calculations for you to show you how wrong you are. Don't take my word for it, get an engineer.

I don't like even like Tesla yet here I am defending them. If anything, they could possibly sue you for slander because what you are saying about their towing capacity is so misguided, especially since you used the term "scientific information." They could claim you are misleading unknowing viewers into thinking what you are doing is scientifically valid relative to towing capacity. On top of that, the towing limits on a truck involve more than just the dead weight of the trailer, but also involve the braking abilities of the truck, and maybe even something involving the suspension (I'm not sure about the latter.) Again, I think you need have an engineer review your video, not only to help you decide whether or not to pull the video, but also because you will definitely need to hire one if you end up in court. Please don't take my word for it; take the initiative to protect yourself.


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Tongue rating of tesla cyber truck is 1100 pound. It exceeded that 9x the ram being rated at 1800 pounds would need to reach 16,200 to reach that same margin.

A gooseneck trailer and load of 20000 pounds exerts roughly 3000 pounds of tounge weight.


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Sorry @Jerryrigeverything, you are so wrong on this one. Your engineering is all wrong on this test. The test standard for 10,000lbs of towing capacity requires the truck to pass 5000lbs of down force and 5000lbs of forward force applied to the hitch package. This bumper breaking at 9000lbs+ fully exceeds the requirements of a standard truck. Sorry brother, your engineering skills didn't serve you well this time.


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The Tesla Cybertruck's hitch has a maximum tongue weight — the downward force exerted by a trailer — of 1,100 lbs (500 kg). Therefore the frame broke when the specification was exceeded approximately 9x. That is not "a improperly loaded trailer or a trailer hitting a pothole". That's complete neglect and driving with a completely collapsed rear suspension over jumps. Also, you won't "break" a steel frame, you will bend it, and bending a steel frame ist still a catastrophic failure.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 8:19 pm
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