re: DKE fraternity in the news again

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Who are the kids that are agreeing to this? I was in a fraternity at LSU, and I would have told them to get fricked if they tried to do some shite like that to me as a pledge. Furthermore as an active I wouldn't have let someone else try to do that to a pledge. No one else in the fraternity would have either.

There's fun and games and then there's being a sick frick.

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I guess this is the problem here. I can't really say I blame them for hammering these kids... but they learned this from somewhere and it is probably their parents.

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a silver pipe

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Was it sterling or just silver plate?

Wow! That's nuts. None of the beating/kicking/broken glass shite would have been condoned at my chapter. Frankly, as a pledge, I would not have tolerated it. Nobody is doing that shite to me without a fight.

I didn't like hazing in general, as a pledge or a member. There was always some good natured harmless hazing, but the guys who were the worst hazers invariably seemed to be the guys who had just had a shitty semester academically and/or broke up with their girlfriend. It always seemed like they were trying to make their fricked up personal situation better by tormenting some poor pledge who didn't have the balls to stand up for himself.

I guess I was fortunate to pledge a fraternity that wasn't as in to hazing as some others. I also had a couple of high school friends who were members when I pledged. During rush I made it very clear that I knew I was joining their group and was expected to play by their rules, but I let them know that anyone who hit me should expect to get hit back. I think my high school friends probably let the other members know I wasn't joking and shouldn't be fricked with too much. It worked out okay for me.

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Garrett Sanders 3rd degree connection3rd
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I began college in Fall of 2016 and anticipate to graduate in Spring of 2020. I am currently majoring in Sport Administration and am pursuing an internship to give myself a better idea of the exact position I wish to hold in the sport industry.
Once in college I joined Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity. I became heavily involved as I am currently the New Member Educator, a position that has taught me how to manage multiple incoming freshman and also how to deal with concerned parents. As 2019 approaches, I will become the Chapter President. It is my hopes that this position strengthens my leadership, communication, and organizational skills.

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Jesus. Leave it to the dekes. I fratted hard in the mid to late 80's and was never physically hazed. I can't imagine allowing somebody to degrade me. IMHO, that's worse than being the tormentor, allowing yourself WILLFULLY to be the bitch.

In my day it was psychological stuff, or funny stuff-stuff that made all parties laugh. And the unofficial code was, you only screwed with guys you liked, not somebody you had it in for. I viewed my role as being a mentor, not a tormentor.

*never really noticed the word mentor in tormentor. Kind of an anti-mentor. Who tf needs an anti-mentor.

Wanting to make pledges do laundry, bring food, etc, whatever.

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Allegations against nine members of LSU's Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity arrested Thursday include ordering pledges to lie face down on a basketball court covered in broken glass while being urinated on. Pledges had gasoline poured on them and were forced to submerge themselves in an ice machine wearing nothing but their underwear, according to arrest warrants released Thursday afternoon. Members of the fraternity are also accused of kicking pledges with steel toed boots, attempting to burn them with cigarettes and beating them with a metal pipe.

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But what in the actual hell? Why would one human want to force another human to lay on broken glass and pee on them?

Physical violence should always be the line. Ice, cold water, gross food, calisthenics, are probably what most people expect out of "hard" hazing and if that were the extent, none of these kids are probably in trouble. The second you start kicking, punching, hitting pledges or using caustic substances on them, you're asking for the trouble you get.

You can roll your eyes, but it was my way of being honest with them and letting them know what they could expect from me. They still chose to give me a bid. If I had tried to "change the rules" or been insubordinate as a pledge, I probably would have been blackballed.

I was a good pledge. I memorized my pledge manual, got signatures on my paddle, showed up for cleaning details before and after parties. I did what was expected of me and they did what I expected of them. I got hazed some, just like every other pledge, but nobody punched or kicked me. And nobody pissed on me while I lay on broken glass.

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force another human to lay on broken glass and pee on them?

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Those damn Germans and their porn, infecting impressionable young minds.