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HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
My kid got a reminder in his notebook from school that his class has been “disruptive” and asking parents to remind their kids to not talk so much during class.

The same week I’m reading lots of articles on LinkedIn talking how disruptive companies and their disruptive technologies are revolutionizing how we work and how their innovative thinking will increase all these efficiencies... blah blah blah.




colorchangintiger
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
Wow. Words can have more than one meaning? That’s sick, cool, and dank.


HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
Damn near opposite meanings in this case. I am in my mid-40s and I have always known the word disruptive to mean troublesome and/or bothersome.

When did you hear it used to describe the complete opposite?



hendersonshands
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
discipline your kid


AlonsoWDC
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
Ever heard of a contranym before?


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BeerMoney
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
What happens on LinkedIn and what happens in reality are two different things baw.


chinese58
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
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disruptive companies and their disruptive technologies are revolutionizing how we work and how their innovative thinking will increase all these efficiencies


Not to be political,but it just sounds like some left-wing drivel that indirectly makes riots and looting OK.

Disruption is usually thought of as a negative.

I personally use the word disruptive on a regular basis when describing a defensive football player's film. It's when a guy is in the other team's backfield, making tackles for losses, causing bad throws, or just causing general chaos . I'm describing how an offense sees him.


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Hester Carries
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
It means the same thing. It’s just not a trait that’s conducive to a classroom of 30 kids and one teacher.

Lots of innovative, creative people were problematic students for the overall goal of a classroom.


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Waldorf
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
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What happens on LinkedIn and what happens in reality are two different things


I think I read that on Twitter.


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PillPusher
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
You can “disrupt” a class by talking too much. You can “disrupt” an industry by shaking up how things are normally done. It’s not that complicated.


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HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
He’s the exception. Straight A student and plays travel baseball year round...textbook Jaxxon or Brayden.



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Sneaky__Sally
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
disruptive isn't a perfect synonym for innovative though.

In the positive context, it would mean altering a certain business sector so while innovative also causing a major shift at the same time. Something can be innovative without being disruptive if it propagates the same thought process whereas an innovation which shifts to a completely new process would be disruptive to that sector.
This post was edited on 11/26 at 5:57 pm


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BorrisMart
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
I've been seeing it used as "innovative" a lot more in law review articles and various online business/tech/finance articles, as opposed to older ones. I know what you mean. I think it is probably just indicative of the previous decade's hyper-evolving technology and information shift which is only happening faster with time. Thus, "changes" are occuring and literally "disrupting" the status quo of the particular sector/system. Probably always been a thing but it does seem to be experiencing much more prevalent use than I recall, at least in academic scholarship; however it is still a correct use of the word since it is still "disruptive."


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Koach K
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
When wearing turtlenecks and talking in an NPR haughty voice became the rage.


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drizztiger
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
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technologies are revolutionizing how we work and how their innovative thinking
You mean Jabberwocky?


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MikeyFL
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
Disruptive innovation became a "thing" in Silicon Valley due to Clayton Christensen and his "disruptive innovation" theory. According to his theory, many innovative technologies and ideas that are initially expensive and difficult to use are overlooked by incumbent technologies. However, over time, they become cheaper, easier, and more effective. As a result, they can disrupt entire industries.

A good example would be the way in which personal computers displaced typewriters. Similarly, some have argued that Netflix disrupted the movie industry. The problem with disruptive innovation theory is that it's too often used as a predictive tool, and a lot of successful products get disrupted prematurely by paranoia.
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M. A. Ryland
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
It is really 1 meaning applied to 2 different contexts.

Disrupt: to break apart, throw into disorder, interrupt the normal course.

To disrupt a classroom by talking out of turn is quite troublesome.
Introducing an important new technology can disrupt an industry.


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Penrod
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
It does not mean innovative. However, innovative technology can also be disruptive.


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TheHarahanian
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?

The tech industry started using “disruptive” to describe things that shook up an industry sector, usually for the better, in the last couple decades.


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Gravitiger
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re: DISRUPTIVE: when did this word mean both “troublesome” and “innovative” ?
"Disruptive innovation" as a business concept became popularized in the late 90s. Before that, "disruption" in business generally was meant to refer to external shocks.
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