re: Disney to have first gay cartoon character

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When have gays not been able to be married ?

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You serious?

Regardless, this is about your desire to deny them the same benefits that we extend to straight couples.

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When have gays not been able to be married ?

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It didn't become legal, as a country, until 2015 right? I know it was legal in some states and not in others before that, but 2015 is when it became legal everywhere I think.

Either way, you addressed the marriage part, but what about the part about being treated like everyone else?

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You serious?

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So you admit they’ve been able to marry?

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Regardless, this is about your desire to deny them the same benefits that we extend to straight couples.

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And why do we extend those benefits?

I feel like we might be making progress

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Who told you my traditional values are out of touch? Seems like my values are fairly well accepted today since last time I checked I see heterosexual couples living all around me. I live a straight heterosexual lifestyle. What do you live?

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Living how you want to live is not what he means by your values are out of touch. He's talking about the part where you want to force the way you live on other people.

The world has seen many wars because some people feel the need to force their values on others. That type of evil just won't go away, it seems.

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Is not the right to marry and be treated like everyone else in the eyes of the law a component of liberty and the pursuit of happiness in this country?

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Where is this specific right? Marriage is highly regulated, still differs state to state on several aspects, and this right has only existed for same sex marriages since 2015 (and not necessarily just based on sexual preferences as obviously even before 2015 a gay man could marry a lesbian female). They are other relationships that are still not allowed to marry. Is any restriction on getting married going against the rights of those affected?

The court legislated this "right" into existence because as Rehnquist wrote they felt it was time to do so. It was not based on long standing US law or practice including other court cases before this one. Even basing it on the 14th without creating a lot of common law marriages in some states that may have created polygamy issues with newly instituted right and potential tax issues they basically admit they are creating it. It was the work of the judicial Oligarchy. I have more of a problem with how it was done, how its been used to harass others in private lives, businesses, or churches, and that marriages are still being regulated by govt especially the huge legal process when it ends more than I have a problem with a state acknowledging a piece of paper that 2 people are in legally binding relationship.

Considering the single digit %'s of homosexuals within global populations and that gay relationships & sex serve no reproductive purpose they are at the least abnormal in society and would almost seem like a defect in evolutionary process based on reproduction's role. It's natural even as a young kid to assume heterosexual relationships are the norm and the way to reproduce without actually having to focus on the sex part that much. It also natural to not view someone of the same sex in any sexual or romantic context or think they view you in that kind of context. Even starting to learn about reproduction shows how things work and fit together.

Hollywood's view of the world is what they see around them everyday and that's not normal in any way. You can't normalize homosexuality across the globe without fictionalizing it some and focusing more on the sex acts than some kids may be ready for. Maybe if movie rated PG13, but usually Pixar movies are rated G or PG. I obviously don't know how this will play out it in movie or its target age, but it is getting pushed it in more and more and for younger audiences. I don't think its wrong or bigoted for any parent to decide their kid is too young to be exposed to that. They can still be tolerate and think exposing very young kids any relationships outside of natural law just pushes sex as reason for the difference at to young of an age along with another possible confusing issue that sex/romantic feelings may be motive behind actions of same sex friends even though I think its over blown when gay people say they knew they were gay at say 5 or 6 (I think Don Lemon stated this but also stated a neighborhood boy started sexual abusing him at same time). Just like adults can be tolerant while having zero interest in actually seeing gay actions or having a focus on a gay relationship in shows or movies they watch.

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Where is this specific right?

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Which part?

Anyone can get married. You don't need a government "granted" right for that.

The issue is whether the marriage is recognized and treated the same as a heterosexual marriage by the state/fedgov. And since we will never all agree on which marriages should qualify for certain benefits, I lean heavily toward government at all levels should stay the F out of marriage completely.

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Considering the single digit %'s of homosexuals within global populations and that gay relationships & sex serve no reproductive purpose they are at the least abnormal in society and would almost seem like a defect in evolutionary process based on reproduction's role.

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So are you on board with denying government benefits and services from people with "defects"? If so, who determines what constitutes a defect? Talk about a slippery slope.

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Doubtful, as its nearly impossible to convince a bigot that he's wrong.

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I’ve found that to be so as well. Most progressives suffer from the same ailment.

You are quite the combination.

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Though I tend to take the side of an issue that maximizes freedom

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This I doubt with the intensity of 1000 suns.

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Are you calling me a bigot?

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No need. It’s evident to all that witness your ravings.