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re: Diet drinks associated with higher risk of stroke, dementia

Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:12 pm to
Pretty soon water will be bad too
Posted by SuperFanDan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:13 pm to
Aspartame has been banned in Japan since the 70's. It's greedy corporations in the US that keep it legal....consumers health be damned.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:16 pm to
I'm always skeptical of these types of studies. I get that it's hard to do this reseach within an experimental design, but it relies on self-reported behaviors, and the behaviors themsleves may be related to the accuracy of their self-reports. In other words, measurement error can be compounded by more error.

I'm particularly skeptical because they also found this:
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Surprisingly, though, the research also contradicted previous studies by finding that sugared drinks did not raise the risk of either serious outcome.
So an alarming result + contradictory results elsewhere makes me question the entire validity of this study and/or their analysis.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:18 pm to
If you can't use quantifiable statistical measure and have to rely on descriptive studies or correlation based then it's crap
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:18 pm to
Agreed
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:23 pm to
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Aspartame has been banned in Japan since the 70's. It's greedy corporations in the US that keep it legal....consumers health be damned.
Well the flawed research, which was later contradicted by better and more extensive research, that linked aspartame to cancer occured in the 1970's.

But the larger manufacturer of aspartame is Ajinomoto Japanese company. So it would seem odd that a country which bans it, also allows a company to produce it. I also can't find anything that supports that it's banned Japan.

I think you're incorrect about the ban.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:25 pm to
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Pretty soon water will be bad too



Dihydrogen monoxide has been found in 100% of malignant tumors.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:26 pm to
Lol
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

If you can't use quantifiable statistical measure and have to rely on descriptive studies or correlation based then it's crap
I disagree that the correlation data is crap since that's the only way to realistically study many phenomenon. Of course it does have major drawbacks in interpretations (specifically causal), which makes experimental studies preferable.

HOWEVER, if the data is also suspect and prone to more error, then those drawbacks are exacerbated. In this case, correctional study drawbacks + questionable data = extremely flawed research.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91604 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:17 pm to
Never been a Coke drinker, but damn I'll grab a Sprite zero cherry if I see one somewhere.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1626 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:13 am to
Anyone buy Zevia soft drinks? I used to drink a ton of Diet Coke/Coke Zero, but switched to Zevia last year.

Zevia uses stevia as a zero calorie sweetener which is natural and all ingredients are non gmo.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 1:14 am
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