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re: Did we ever get a good explanation on why they got rid of cabooses?

Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by SmelvinRat
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by blueagateblues
Member since Sep 2022
230 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:20 pm to
That's nasty.
Posted by GeoSmith
Member since Jun 2021
138 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:59 am to
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In the early 90's I had an idea to get a caboose and sell sabrett hotdogs out of it.. I contacted my local railroad and they quoted me.. get this.... $2,500 delivered.. and I didn't do it...

You could not touch one for $125,000 today..

I really screwed that deal up for sure..

But.. at that time. My second ex kept me penniless


John Schneider's wife bought him the caboose that was in Pontchatoula. I think she paid $2k but it does need repairs and restoration.

LINK
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:53 am to
It was actually a van of kids that the train hit going an estimated 60 mph in heavy fog in middle of a town. The city had been pushing for a real crossing at the location for 10 years as this was the 4th major accident on the RR track in like 5 years and it had numerous fatalities. And they didn’t blow the horn or shite.

Tell your CSR lawyer buddies thanks for me when you see them, they helped me buy my first boat and it was sweet.

The lie so much even the judge had enough of their bullshite. And I was much younger, strong as a bull, mean as frick, and offered to take it outside and settle this man to Man under “fighting words doctrine” several times but they were pussies and declined, when they tried this shite with me. They behaved better after that. It like they thought the RR were hot shite. Ducking Philly lawyers. I hate bullies.

This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 1:55 am
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1274 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:39 am to
Many reasons were given in this thread that contributed to them no longer being needed. When Timken invented the sealed roller bearings incorporated in train axles, they eliminated the need for workers to inspect and add oil to the packing used to lubricate axles on train cars.
This eliminated axles overheating and catching fire. The guys in cabooses looked for overheated axles which caught on fire and burn the older wooden train cars.
Automation to electronically controlled switches eliminated the need for workers to manually throw switches.
Air brakes eliminated workers to manually apply brakes.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:45 am to
One was sold in Louisiana for $4,000 last year in good shape.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 7:46 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65498 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:46 am to
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“End of train device.”


kinky
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
34848 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:48 am to
You guys know your stuff. Lots of valid reasons given for the elimination of the caboose. I’d just like to leave with a parting question. Has the world gotten better or worse since they got rid of cabooses? Sometimes the big money guys fail to take that into consideration when bean counting these decisions.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 7:56 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:49 am to
Fewer crew needed to travel with the train. Electric switches meant you didn't need someone front and rear to set and reset switches.

Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2056 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:04 am to
Damn here I am thinking that the caboose was just the last car on the train, just like a term or nickname. Didn't realize there was an actual caboose if that makes sense. I had to google it.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5684 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:19 am to
Economics, my man! Unions fought it but to no avail.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23246 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:23 am to
There was (and probably still is) a local from Lufkin to Shreveport that has a caboose.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23246 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:26 am to
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(I swear this is basically a true story)


that's great lawyer speak
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3759 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:46 am to
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If you look at the regulatory climate for railroads at the time, it was awful. Five man crews were required. Rates were set by the government. Ability to add and drop service frequency or entire routes was also fed regulated. Meanwhile, the states knew the railroads couldn't exactly cut and run, so they set up very high tax rates. Ergo the bankruptcies




I mean, you’re not wrong. But the average adult man or woman who were beginning to believe that mayonnaise, which had been stored at room temperature for close to 48 hours, was safe for consumption, were responsible for changing the landscape of several American industries.


I think we're basically saying the same thing.

You had the government, doing their usual vote-buying, telling the American people that we didn't have to take any sh** from the evil railroads, and that the railroads would be forced to keep the fares low and service levels high to all towns.

The stale mayonaise eating folks evidently bought the message because our nation's rail infrastructure was grossly overbuilt in Central and Eastern timezones from about 1910 to 1985.

They knew it was a problem around 1920. It got bad in the depression. Perhaps 1/3 of the nation's trackage was in bankruptcy around 1970. Nationalization as a last resort happened in 1971 and 1976. Deregulation happened in 1981. Things were sort of "normal" around 1985-1990.

This is why you really don't want to trust the government. They take 80 years to solve a problem.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23246 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:17 pm to
LORAM has rail welding trains that use a firefighting caboose. The caboose connects to a tank car full of firefighting foam and has two fire "guns" on the back. When the train welds rails, a lot of sparks fly and railroad ties and adjacent brush often catch on fire.



Here's on in action in Shreveport:

Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4763 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:25 pm to
A manned caboose would've wrecked Walter White's plan.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6601 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:58 pm to
My wife has a sweet caboose.
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