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re: Did i see a possible dry run for a terrorist attack?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:16 am to Michael J Cocks
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:16 am to Michael J Cocks
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I don't know man, but I am willing to bet a year of sex that they weren't doing a dry run. These dudes are the smartest most covert operators out there, they wouldn't take a chance on scaring people or raising suspicion. Someone like you just has to make a call and say 2 suspicious Arabs wore back packs into wal mart and their house is raided and they are on their way to Cuba tomorrow. And they especially wouldn't take that risk for something as simple as blowing up a wal mart. REITERATE- that would take no planning.
Most of the suspected terrorist plots we have uncovered after 9/11 have been fairly foolish in design (that guy who was gonna blow up the pipelines to some airport, the planned Fort Dix attack, etc). And odds are if these guys are actually terrorists, that they are just Al-qaeda sympathizers, not actual members of Al-qaeda.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:19 am to GeneralLee
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Most of the suspected terrorist plots we have uncovered after 9/11 have been fairly foolish in design (that guy who was gonna blow up the pipelines to some airport, the planned Fort Dix attack, etc).
all of those: Not Wal Mart. If they were suicide bombers they would have acted. What's the point in doing a dry run for a suicide mission in a building that has no security?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:21 am to Michael J Cocks
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What's the point in doing a dry run for a suicide mission in a building that has no security?
I totally agree. No dry runs needed in a suicide bomber attack. It could have been a number of illegal things getting ready to happen but I don't think it was a dry run for a suicide bomb attack.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:22 am to Michael J Cocks
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all of those: Not Wal Mart. If they were suicide bombers they would have acted. What's the point in doing a dry run for a suicide mission in a building that has no security?
By that logic, we should assume that the terrorists will only hijack planes or only bomb United States frigates or African embassies in the future. On the contrary, we should expect something different as our ramped up security is almost always retroactive in dealing with these threats. Why do a dry run? To test out their plans, the amount of people in the store, etc. etc. They can't expect that they are going to get arrested going into Walmart wearing backpacks. The odds of them being sent to jail for that are very low.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:24 am to GeneralLee
You should log off of this web site and go sit outside the Homeland Security office calling from your cell and banging on the door until someone opens up and lets you in. Then you should have this debate with them. Then go home and get some sleep.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:24 am to jpggpj
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I totally agree. No dry runs needed in a suicide bomber attack. It could have been a number of illegal things getting ready to happen but I don't think it was a dry run for a suicide bomb attack.
Maybe it was going to be an actual attack, but possibly they could've noticed that I was watching them very closely so they could've thought that they would kill less people if they had to fight me off first.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:24 am to Michael J Cocks
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I don't know man, but I am willing to bet a year of sex that they weren't doing a dry run
dude, you are married and have kids. This is like nothing to you.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:25 am to GeneralLee
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Why do a dry run? To test out their plans, the amount of people in the store, etc. etc.
What is there to test? You walk in, pull a string and blow up. They can scan a store to see when it's busiest without the backpacks.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:26 am to GeneralLee
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Maybe it was going to be an actual attack, but possibly they could've noticed that I was watching them very closely so they could've thought that they would kill less people if they had to fight me off first.
They are polishing the medal as we speak.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:26 am to jwall3
I looked and saw that the Springfield, IL FBI office has the jurisidiction for this part of Illinois. I am sending them an email as we speak.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:27 am to jpggpj
General. You should join a militia and go sit on th Mexican border with a 12 pack and a .22
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:28 am to GeneralLee
GL - there is nothing racist or otherwise wrong with you reporting this.. let the FBI know and they will either look into it or not.. nothing but good can come from you notifying them..
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:28 am to jwall3
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They are polishing the medal as we speak
Well excuse me. I can honestly say even though I am a shy person, when it comes time to act in stressful situations I will do what is necessary to protect myself and other people. If I was on Flight 93, i would've helped the guys there fight the hijackers.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:29 am to GeneralLee
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Maybe it was going to be an actual attack, but possibly they could've noticed that I was watching them very closely so they could've thought that they would kill less people if they had to fight me off first.
What? If they were suicide bombers then whether you have a can of chile to throw at them or not would not have mattered. If they were going to shoot up the place....well same logic applies. I doubt you had anything to do with why they walked out. Not saying they were not up to no good but I don't believe it was a dry run for a suicide bombing.
On another note, had this been me, I would have never walked in the store. I would have stopped in the parking lot and let them go in....wait to see if anything blew up and if not, then went to do my shopping.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:29 am to GEAUXARMY
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General. You should join a militia and go sit on th Mexican border with a 12 pack and a .22
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:29 am to GEAUXARMY
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General. You should join a militia and go sit on th Mexican border with a 12 pack and a .22
6,000 National Guard are doing that as we speak. That and I am in grad school and on a research assistantship so I can't just leave.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:30 am to GeneralLee
God, some of you people are fricking retarded.
"A suicide bomber would be stupid to make himself known before he actually did it"
His job is to blow himself up......You think he actually cares if he's seen.
If the guy is honest about this, why are you questioning him. He seems somewhat freaked out (by the mile a minute posting). If he's not honest, he'll have a lot of answering to do......
And honestly, if you don't think a walmart is a good target for these scumbags, then you're fricking retarded. The fear that it will instill, for a person just looking to get some toilet paper.
"A suicide bomber would be stupid to make himself known before he actually did it"
His job is to blow himself up......You think he actually cares if he's seen.
If the guy is honest about this, why are you questioning him. He seems somewhat freaked out (by the mile a minute posting). If he's not honest, he'll have a lot of answering to do......
And honestly, if you don't think a walmart is a good target for these scumbags, then you're fricking retarded. The fear that it will instill, for a person just looking to get some toilet paper.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:31 am to jpggpj
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On another note, had this been me, I would have never walked in the store. I would have stopped in the parking lot and let them go in....wait to see if anything blew up and if not, then went to do my shopping.
I honestly was debating between staying outside of the store and/or driving away. But i'm not one to run from a situation like that, I'd rather be the first line of defense. It would be better if I died rather than women and children inside the store.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:31 am to GeneralLee
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6,000 National Guard are doing that as we speak. That and I am in grad school and on a research assistantship so I can't just leave.
You could if it mattered to you as much as it does the other 6,000 gaurdsmen.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 12:31 am to ovaltine
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ovaltine
dum.
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