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re: Did i see a possible dry run for a terrorist attack?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:16 pm to GeneralLee
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:16 pm to GeneralLee
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I tend to still look at law and order somewhat like the guys in Lonesome Dove did
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:16 pm to GeneralLee
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They walked in about 20-30 feet pass the double entrance doors to the Walmart, and from the time they walked in to the time they walked out was probably 30 seconds or so.
Again, they were casing the place in 30 seconds? Like I said earlier if they were practing to blow the place up, what good would a bomb placed 20 to 30 feet in do? Wouldn't they want to get to the center of the store to make it more effective? I mean since you think terrorist are so smat and all doesn't setting the bomb off in the least effective spot seem dumb?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:17 pm to jwall3
I called the authorities within the hour. The "Lonesome Dove" part of me was me going into the store knowing that I might get blown up. I was more concerned with the people inside who might get killed, i felt like the best way to protect people would be to go inside and see what happened when these guys walked in.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:17 pm to GeneralLee
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racist
you got it bud.
there are hundreds of thousands of Arab Americans in the US today with absolutely no intention of doing any harm to the US, ever. Why would you automatically assume that you saw two who did?
This "war on terror" bullshite has turned the entire country into paranoid racists. Odds are these were just two kids who forgot something, and are just trying to live their lives just as you are.
I swear, it's McCarthyism all over again.
This post was edited on 6/14/08 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:17 pm to GeneralLee
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Yeah, the cops or FBI would've really had had time to get there to stop the suicide bombing.
What if they were just dropping the back packs off and detonating them from a distance? Wouldn't it be pertinent information to have a detailed description and license plate number? or would it be better to assume it's better to go in there like a fricking dummy and get blown up with the rest of the people so I don't look like a coward. Are you fricking kidding me?
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I tend to still look at law and order somewhat like the guys in Lonesome Dove did. If the authorities are far away, sometimes you gotta protect yourself and others on your own.
Oh and you did an exemplary job of this. Did you fricking warn any fellow shoppers of what you thought was going down? Did you try to interfere with the terrorist during their dry run?
You are so fricking full of shite it's hilarious.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:18 pm to GeneralLee
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I tend to still look at law and order somewhat like the guys in Lonesome Dove did. If the authorities are far away, sometimes you gotta protect yourself and others on your own.
So what did you do to protecte yourself there "Gus McCrae" besides whatch them?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:18 pm to stout
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Again, they were casing the place in 30 seconds? Like I said earlier if they were practing to blow the place up, what good would a bomb placed 20 to 30 feet in do? Wouldn't they want to get to the center of the store to make it more effective? I mean since you think terrorist are so smat and all doesn't setting the bomb off in the least effective spot seem dumb?
The center of this WalMart is not where the most people are. This was the only entrance this time of night, so it was one of the most heavily populated parts. There were 4 or 5 aisles fairly close to where these people walked in.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:18 pm to GeneralLee
That sounds strange to me. How do you check on what a suspected suicide bomber might do. If he is what you think he is, then he is going to blow himself up. Do you jump on him like a hand grenade? Why didn't you try tht?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:19 pm to GeneralLee
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I called the authorities within the hour. The "Lonesome Dove" part of me was me going into the store knowing that I might get blown up. I was more concerned with the people inside who might get killed, i felt like the best way to protect people would be to go inside and see what happened when these guys walked in.
I hate this is too long for a sig quote cause it is greatness.
Thanks General Lee and Tiger Dave
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:19 pm to Michael J Cocks
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Oh and you did an exemplary job of this. Did you fricking warn any fellow shoppers of what you thought was going down? Did you try to interfere with the terrorist during their dry run?
You are so fricking full of shite it's hilarious.
I didn't do anything because NOTHING ENDED UP HAPPENING. I know it's very naive of me to think i could've stopped or even slowed them down much, but that's just the way I am.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:20 pm to GeneralLee
Was the Walmart very busy?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:20 pm to GeneralLee
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The center of this WalMart is not where the most people are. This was the only entrance this time of night, so it was one of the most heavily populated parts. There were 4 or 5 aisles fairly close to where these people walked in.
Uhh you said earlier they weren't worried about body count but economic impact didn't you? So why blow up a small part of the store that can be fixed instead of going to the center and try to take the whole thing down?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:21 pm to dawgorama
nope it was 10 pm on a Friday night. Probably about 150-200 people total in the store.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:22 pm to stout
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Do you really think they would make a dry run and just go in for 30 seconds as GL says they did.
I mean, I don't know.
But I think it's more than feasible. And it's certainly not absurd. Terrorists have been known to plan their shite out. So why the frick wouldn't they do it, if only to see how much attention they would garner if they walked into a WM with backpacks on..?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:23 pm to CocomoLSU
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But I think it's more than feasible. And it's certainly not absurd. Terrorists have been known to plan their shite out. So why the frick wouldn't they do it, if only to see how much attention they would garner if they walked into a WM with backpacks on..?
Because if it garners attention then what? You don't do it? These idiots are looking to blow people up, not jack the safe. They don't care if you notice once they are pulling the trigger.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:23 pm to CocomoLSU
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But I think it's more than feasible. And it's certainly not absurd. Terrorists have been known to plan their shite out. So why the frick wouldn't they do it, if only to see how much attention they would garner if they walked into a WM with backpacks on..?
I know they plan shite out but again if they are bombing a wal-mart how much do you really think they are concerned over attention?
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:24 pm to jwall3
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Because if it garners attention then what? You don't do it? These idiots are looking to blow people up, not jack the safe. They don't care if you notice once they are pulling the trigger.
Exactly my point
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:24 pm to Michael J Cocks
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why would you need practice bombing a wal mart coke?
I think you're misusing the term "practice."
Like I just said, maybe they were just testing the waters, so to speak, to see how much attention they would attract with the backpacks.
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Do you think they would risk raising suspicion
Well, apparently they raised ZERO suspicion (from WM).
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And if you were General Lee and you saw 2 suspicious looking Arabs grab back packs out of their trunk and follow you in the store, would you still walk in the store(being as worried as he claims) and not make a b-line back to your car or at least have a detailed description of said vehicle. My spider senses tell me that if he was this shook over these 2 individuals that he clearly saw before he went in the store, he would have handled it a bit differently.
I don't know how I would have reacted.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:24 pm to stout
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Uhh you said earlier they weren't worried about body count but economic impact didn't you? So why blow up a small part of the store that can be fixed instead of going to the center and try to take the whole thing down?
The front of this store, next to the cash registers, would've been the place where they could've killed the most people. In terms of economic impact, I am talking on a national level, not just the physical building in question. Blowing up the WalMart would probably just cost several million in inventory and property, plant, and equipment costs. It would take an OKC type of bomb to physically demolish a WalMart building, not the type of bomb you can carry in on backpacks. The billions of dollars in impact would come from the loss in value of WalMart stock and from higher crude oil prices.
Posted on 6/14/08 at 6:25 pm to stout
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Uhh you said earlier they weren't worried about body count but economic impact didn't you? So why blow up a small part of the store that can be fixed instead of going to the center and try to take the whole thing down?
his reasoning changes to fit his story. He was gonna be a hero, but then he wasn't sure if they were really terrorists. Well nothing happened so it had to be a dry run(obviously since wal mart is the epicenter of maximum security and strategic planning).
Now he's preaching being pro-active to fight this evil yet he waited and watched to see what they were gonna do. Then calls 911 an hour later to tell them that 2 guys went inside a walmart with back packs.
Operator: Sir do you have a description?
GL: Um yeah, 1 had long hair and they were arab.
Op: Did you see their vehicle and get a plate?
GL: Um no. I was gonna stop them in case they blew it up.
Op: Ok I'll uh notify Homeland Security and let them know immediately that you saw 2 mexicans that drove a car.
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