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re: Did any of you feel stuck in college?

Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:35 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:35 am to
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If you make 150k working 80 hours a week, versus someone making 150k working 40 hours a week, your pay isn't equal


The difference is that out of high school, one is spending 6k-20k/year on college while the other is making 100k/year working OT in the plant.,,for 4-5 years.

After 5 years: engineer: $-35,000; operator: $500,000

Coming out of college, that engineer won't be making 150k, he'll be making 50k, and working only 50-60 hrs/week, but steadily increasing pay and decreasing hours from there.

5 years after college:
engineer: $270,000; operator: $1,100,000

Next 5 years, engineer keeps getting promoted and getting more and more money, closing in on just 40 hours/week. Baw is still working 60 hrs/week and the occasional 7/12s.

10 years after college:
engineer: $942,000; baw: 1,600,000

The engineer is now bringing in more per year, working half the hours, and has far more vacation time. Over the next 5 years, he will surpass the baw in total money earned while still building retirement from the company.

20 years after college:
college: $3,357,000; baw: $2,500,000

It pays off, it just takes a while. However, if a baw was a very savvy investor, the time value of money could inable him to translate that early advantage into a huge financial windfall by investing in revenue producing assets. Nvm, let's just buy a $400,000 house, $30,000 boat, and a brand new chevy with the lift kit look a whole lot better wit u up in it while blasting a little Ol' Hank and a little T-Payne, just might make it rain.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60663 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:36 am to
I feel the opposite. I'm graduating next year and it's fricking depressing.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19958 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:36 am to
Just remember that all that you do in college will lead you to something. You will be glad you finished and the time spent will help you find your way. Most people have no clue what they actually want to do till their late 20s or early 30s anyway.

You may even end up changing your path after you are in a few years. Just take the ride and enjoy it.

Have fun and just let life happen.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:37 am to
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However, if a baw was a very savvy investor, the time value of money could inable him to translate that early advantage into a huge financial windfall by investing in revenue producing assets


That baw will also miss holidays, life events, and have to work nights/weekends/whatever. The money isn't equal no matter how you try to spin it.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:37 am to
You should go to the gym three days a week and eat paleo. You will forget your complaints.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:38 am to
Engineers in my unit work M-F and show up about 6 am and leave about 5.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:39 am to
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Engineers in my unit work M-F and show up about 6 am and leave about 5.


So one more time since you keep dodging, do they work equal hours over the year?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70466 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:39 am to
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Engineers in my unit work M-F and show up about 6 am and leave about 5.


Yup, 5-10s. Engineers work 50 hrs/week (most of the time), contractors work 60+
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:40 am to
And take a 2 hour lunch at the bar.

Trust me, I go with them every day.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:40 am to
You get it.
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3991 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:42 am to
I felt stuck for 4 years until I graduated
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:42 am to
quote:

I don't wanna just throw it away but it sure is hard not having much money


I had this problem too. You got to just tough it out. My last 2 years of college I didn't have TV, ate nothing but PB&J and ham sandwiches, and stole wifi from my neighbor. It made my arse get out of college ASAP. And it still took a few years after to be able to buy what I wanted. Living like that did take away a lot of fear when making decisions. Once you've done it, it's not as scary of a consequence when taking risks.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:43 am to
Dude for the 4th mothergoddamnfricking time. No, I'm not saying that. Again, stop and pay attention- engineers have a better schedule.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:43 am to
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No, I'm not saying that. Again, stop and pay attention- engineers have a better schedule.


So the money isn't equal. One has to work much harder and give up much more to get it. Which was what you were arguing against.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:46 am to
Whatever, I'm tired of arguing this point with a cinder block. You're right.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:46 am to
I'm no expert on plant operators.

But using your math. You are saying plant operators come straight out of HS with no education or training and automatically make 100k?

Am I reading this correctly?


and what the Reality dude is saying is true.

150k=150k

Obviously the work required to make that 150k is different and the engineer will have more time to enjoy that money. But.. 150k is still 150k
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 8:49 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Whatever, I'm tired of arguing this point with a cinder block
It's funny you insult my intelligence when you're the one that didn't even realize what you were saying apparently.

quote:

You're right.


I know.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:47 am to
It takes about 2 years to get to that pay realistically.

Posted by TaxmanMSU
a glasscase of emotion
Member since Oct 2012
4217 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:48 am to
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I'm trying to do a co-op as soon as possible.



Exactly, all my Engineering buddies I was jealous of because they were always flush with money from co-oping. Best situation for a college student, get paid like a salaried employee for half the year and blow it all when you're in school.

You are a lucky bastard and don't even know it
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:48 am to
Yeah, you're right...
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