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re: DFW Airport cancels plans for Islamic foot washing stations

Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:04 pm to
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Have no skin in this game but what makes it illegal?



Guessing it is being specifically a muslim only location in a govt owned facility. Earlier info stated the areas would be private not for public and have some private funding helping to fund some of it.



Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:06 pm to
I don't disagree why they are installing them. Or why the airport holds religious services at their chapels.

Just pointing out the bullshite that this going viral is the only reason anyone cares about some constitutional right.

Hopefully DFW has to remove the chapel too.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Guessing it is being specifically a muslim only location in a govt owned facility


Not big on them having their own location anywhere tbh
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:10 pm to
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Hopefully DFW has to remove the chapel too.


Good point! Muslims and Jews, among others, aren't allowed to enter places that they believe perform idolatrous or polytheistic worship. An "interfaith chapel" would fall under that. The fact that they're technically allowed to use it too doesn't magically change its purpose, right Klark?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10962 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:14 pm to
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Anyone can use it. It's a little tub on the floor with a faucet. They don't check your Muslim card before you use it.



It was planned as a private area for only one specific religion to perform a specific ritual of that religion in a govt own facility and was not going to be for public use ever.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:17 pm to
So it was a privately owned place?

Or was it a private area that you had to present your muslim card to enter?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23562 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:17 pm to
That's not what the scope said:

quote:

The scope of the project "consists of adding ablution stations to existing concourse level restrooms in Terminal D, one men's ablution station in existing mens restroom and one women's ablution station in the existing womens restroom," the filing said.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:17 pm to
sigh.


DFW has had a chapel in it's airport since 1977. Three years after it opened. Secondly chapels are not explicitly interfaith. Also, the chapel you want removed is where the existing foot washing stations are.

Second, a purpose built ablution "wash your nasty sandal feet" station is different. We both know why it's being installed and who it's intended to accomodate. Saying, "anyone can use it" doesn't change that. As has been pointed out multiple times.

Third, this went viral because a lot of Americans are growing tired of seeing public institutions cater to Islamic religious practices. Which is espcially disgusting on the 25th anniversery of 9/11.



quote:

Good point! Muslims and Jews, among others, aren't allowed to enter places that they believe perform idolatrous or polytheistic worship. An "interfaith chapel" would fall under that. The fact that they're technically allowed to use it too doesn't magically change its purpose, right Klark?


lulz, see above.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23562 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:19 pm to
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DFW has had a chapel in it's airport since 1977. Three years after it opened. Secondly chapels are not explicitly interfaith. Also, the chapel you want removed is where the existing foot washing stations are.


But they already have some” doesn’t explain why that legal argument is bullshite. It just raises the question about why Abbott didn’t challenge the existing ones sooner.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10962 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:20 pm to
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Hopefully DFW has to remove the chapel too.


You mean the all faith chapel that has a Friday prayer day for muslims.

quote:

Protestant/Nondenominational Service: Sunday, Monday, Friday and Saturday
Holy Eucharist Service: Sunday
Juma Prayer: Friday

https://www.dfwairport.com/dfwnewsroom/archivednews/dfw-airport-celebrates-relocation-of-interfaith-chapel/
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75878 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:22 pm to
I already suggested why.

It's reelection time for Abbott, next.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:23 pm to
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You mean the all faith chapel that has a Friday prayer day for muslims.



Yes.

They have chose to support certain religions over others. Jewish worshipers cannot go in there. According to what some have said in this thread that is supporting one religion over another.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10962 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:25 pm to
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Jewish worshipers cannot go in there.


Why? Because the muslims will slit their throats??
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61541 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:25 pm to
Well, if they are going to have Muslim feet washing stations. And also prayer rugs, kneelers, and scriptures.

Then there should be a Holy Water font and Rosaries available for Catholics.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7413 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:26 pm to
Meh, would have made good dog watering stations for service dogs and such.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:26 pm to
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Why? Because the muslims will slit their throats??




I mean, you aren't wrong.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23562 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Meh, would have made good dog watering stations for service dogs and such.


It's funny because they absolutely would've been mistaken for urinals and been pissed in.

I don't care that they're scrapping the project. I just don't think it was illegal to install.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75878 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:27 pm to
Where are you getting that Jewish worshippers “cannot go in there”?

DFW explicitly describes these as interfaith chapels available to people of all faiths.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79723 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:31 pm to
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Where are you getting that Jewish worshippers “cannot go in there”?


Basically jewish people can't enter other faiths churches/worship areas. It is avodah zarah if you want to read about it.

Like baptist going into a bar. They may not drink but to the community it would look like they did.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23562 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Where are you getting that Jewish worshippers “cannot go in there”?

DFW explicitly describes these as interfaith chapels available to people of all faiths.


You're so close to connecting it.

Jews can use an interfaith chapel the same way non-Muslims can use an ablution station.
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