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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:11 pm to
pressure to the back of the neck would not typically explain strangulation or asphyxiation
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:11 pm to
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the unexcluded cerotic artery would continue to allow blood flow to the brain"

Why are we here?!?!?!?

I'm having a hard time with this portion. The ME is claiming asphyxiation due to neck compression, but just stated he didn't think pressure was being applied to the carotid artery. He's also saying no tissue damage found in the neck. So just how is he getting to asphyxiation due to neck compression?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:11 pm to
So we are supposed to believe that Chauvin put so much pressure but yet left no physical signs of damage.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:12 pm to
bailiwick

will try to add this to my daily vocab
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:12 pm to
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ME dude is gangster.. very fricking honest.. doesn’t care who is asking questions.


Well, that is how it is supposed to work.

Unfortunately it's not the norm.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144039 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:12 pm to
Does Nelson even need to present a defense?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46357 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:12 pm to
The ME used "bailiwick"

Awesome.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:13 pm to
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After the beating you gave her I'm suprised she returned.



They always come back for more.
Posted by LRTiger
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2007
284 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:13 pm to
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I think the most awesome thing is that Nelson seems to occasionally miss something or be wrong just enough to validate everything else the witness agee's with him on. That is slick.


I have noticed this too, and I believe it has been intentional and very effective. Like he is playing dumb so that the witness can correct him and feel like the authority.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:13 pm to
Why is Nelson veering into tropical disease? He was rolling.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Does Nelson even need to present a defense?


To get this thread past 1000 pages Yes.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:14 pm to
He’s pretty much admitting that he doesn’t know the difference or definition of the cause of death that he claimed.

Dude is a quack
Posted by PurpleFin
Member since Apr 2017
91 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:15 pm to
When a normal person is exercising or exerting energy their coronary vessels dilate to allow more blood flow to the heart because it’s beating faster. A person with 90% occlusion is already maximally dilated at baseline, so there’s no room to dilate more to accommodate for the increased heart rate. I’m surprised this wasn’t brought up when they discussed the blood supply to the SA node.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:17 pm to
BOOM!!!
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:17 pm to
THE ME HAS PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED FENTENYL DEATHS WITH LOWER LEVELS THAN WHAT GF HAD IN HIS SYSTEM
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:17 pm to
Well that just blew up the " he didn't have a high enough level of Fentanyl to OD" argument.

Has certified deaths with the amount Floyd had and lower.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Well that just blew up the " he didn't have a high enough level of Fentanyl to OD" argument.

Has certified deaths with the amount Floyd had and lower.


And even said that lower levels had a combination of other drugs - just like Floyd had.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:19 pm to
Come on Ams now explain why the professional is wrong.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:19 pm to
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Well that just blew up the " he didn't have a high enough level of Fentanyl to OD" argument.

Has certified deaths with the amount Floyd had and lower.

Also volunteered that other drugs combined with fentanyl made a major contribution.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26740 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:19 pm to
This has been a good day for both teams. After yesterday and today, I think the prosecution has a better chance at manslaughter than before, I also think the defense has a better chance of having jurors stick to their guns on not guilty if they feel that way...not saying they do feel that way, just if they do, they are unlikely to sway
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