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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 3/11/21 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23761 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 4:24 pm to
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I know it's just jury selection but I've been impressed with the Chauvin's attorney so far.



The website for his firm is must less impressive.


ETA: I think the judge has been incredibly fair thus far. He's pushed back against the states challenges a few times and I believe overruled one of their objections if I heard that correctly in the background.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 4:27 pm
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
6270 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 4:31 pm to
Did Mike Small have a website? Websites are Fluff to draw those without knowledge in; one call that’s all & get Gorden.
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
13979 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:00 pm to
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Fentanyl killed Floyd, not him and he should be compensated for the undue harassment he's had to take


wrong. that’s not what the medical examiner concluded
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2689 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:12 pm to
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that’s not what the medical examiner concluded
stop watching cnn
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
13979 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:13 pm to
whether the drugs helped is irrelevant, dude wouldn’t have died without a knee on his neck for 8 minutes. but keep defending this piece of shite
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14974 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:17 pm to
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whether the drugs helped is irrelevant, dude wouldn’t have died without a knee on his neck for 8 minutes. but keep defending this piece of shite


He wouldn't have OD if he wouldn't have been on drugs and then swallowed his stash. The autopsy says everything you said is pure bullshite.

quote:

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner released its toxicology report on Monday and  revealed in its findings that the 46-year-old suffered a heart attack when he was being arrested last week in
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 5:23 pm
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
13979 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:23 pm to
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Seven experts in toxicology, cardiology and illegal drug use consulted by The Washington Post largely disagreed with that idea, most of them strenuously. All but one said the autopsy findings and other court documents, coupled with the well-known chain of events that evening, made death by a fentanyl overdose unlikely to impossible.


LINK

took 30 seconds to find this but keep spewing dumb shite
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14974 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:25 pm to
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The medical examiner appeared to back the conclusion that Floyd was not asphyxiated -- listing a host of injuries absent in this case, in particular petechiae, or pinpoint-size red spots caused by broken blood vessels that can sometimes be a sign of asphyxiation.


The 911 tape stated he was acting drunk so he was already trashed while breaking tge law. The whole video shows him fighting back with the police and the police followed their manual for combative people on drugs. The toxicology report shows not 1 but 2 different drugs with fatal levels not to mention other drugs ( I think a total of 5) in his system. I'm sure his blood pressure and stress shot through the roof knowing he was going to jail and that combined with heart disease and drugs caused him to have a heart attack. He absolutely didn't die from asphyxiation as there were zero signs of that happening.

The fact you want ignored is if george floyd wouldn't have been breaking the law and fighting back with the police while having fatal amounts of drugs in him we wouldn't be here.
It's sickening to proclaim floyd a victim as this all started and ended with HIS CHOICES.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:27 pm to
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whether the drugs helped is irrelevant, dude wouldn’t have died without a knee on his neck for 8 minutes. but keep defending this piece of shite


You know that beyond a reasonable doubt?

With severe heart disease
Covid
Meth
And fentanyl in his system

Scary

The guy said he couldn’t breathe when he was in the back of the car. Also, he pulled this exact thing before. Started crying and freaking out then swallowed his stash and overdosed. If you act a fool enough it catches up with you.

Chauvin is wreckless and doesn’t need to be a cop, but a murderer? Not a chance.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:28 pm to
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Seven experts in toxicology, cardiology and illegal drug use hand picked by The Washington Post to follow a narrative


FIFY
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2689 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:29 pm to
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dude wouldn’t have died without a knee on his neck for 8 minutes


wrong.

also, maybe if he wasn't high as frick he wouldn't have needed a knee on his neck.

try thinking beyond your kneejerk feelings and consider context
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
13979 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:32 pm to
if you’re claiming he died of an overdose, experts disagree with you.

if you’re claiming his health problems combined with the drugs, AND the cops knee all had something to do with it then i would have to agree with you. that would still mean that cop was complicit in Floyd’s death
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14974 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:37 pm to
He died of a combination of drugs and heart disease. He was already saying he couldn't breathe ( this is a sign of cardiac arrest which he died from) before he was restrained.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71321 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 5:55 pm to
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if you’re claiming he died of an overdose, experts disagree with you.


Really? Because it sure seems like the ME was doing a whole lot of fence straddling. He listed the cause of death as homicide, but went on the record saying that Floyd did have a likely fatal amount of Fentanyl in his system, and that if Floyd had been found anywhere else, like at home, it would have been ruled a drug overdose.

That's a big problem.

ETA: And, given that the same autopsy shows no signs of bruising to the carotid artery, no signs that the trachea had been restricted, and no other signs that his airway was restricted, and it is an even bigger problem.

ETA(Again): If you're going to go the cardiac arrest route, then you have to acknowledge the drugs in his system, the excited delirium, and the fact that Floyd alone was responsible for escalating the situation.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 5:59 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71321 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:02 pm to
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dude wouldn’t have died without a knee on his neck for 8 minutes

Again, I ask: How do you square the ME's comments, on the record, that Floyd had a likely fatal amount of Fentanyl in his system, and that if he had been found dead anywhere else, it would have been ruled a drug overdose?
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 6:02 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69469 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:04 pm to
He can't. Not beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9558 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:15 pm to
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NorthTxLSU


You're gonna be so mad when Chauvin gets off.


He's getting off.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:16 pm to
What’s the score here? What’s next?
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12407 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:18 pm to
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You're gonna be so mad when Chauvin gets off.


He's getting off.

No he’s not.
He should.
He will be a sacrifice.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14974 posts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:24 pm to
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will be a sacrifice.


That would be the worst outcome. People are going to riot no matter what the outcome.
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