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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:57 am to
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I think you should probably learn how to read.
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Had Brooks died of alcohol poisoning, the crusade against the bar makes infinitely more sense.


you are a coward. you want to rant and rant and always offer nothing in your thoughts.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:57 am to
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Did he also own part of the Caterie (burned down as well).


No he didn't
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:57 am to
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so are you going to be upset when madison's family sues reggie's out of existence? feels like you wouldn't agree with that lawsuit

I think there will be causation issues if the insurance company really wants to litigate. Odds are they pony up the policy if it's $1M as a cost of defense. That would likely remove the owner /LLc entirely, though.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:58 am to
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Yeh shadys wasn’t nearly as bad as Reggie’s. Mikes was somewhat close

Mikes > shadys
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:58 am to
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How many times can you get hand rapped for underage drinking? He's a fricking scourge who deserves whatever bureaucratic hell anyone in power can throw at him.


The problem with this line of thinking is that most people don’t have a problem with the drinking age being set at 18. This could have happened to this college female if she was 21 just as easily.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:59 am to
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The problem with this line of thinking is that most people don’t have a problem with the drinking age being set at 18.


zero legal relevance to this speculative presumption.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:00 am to
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zero legal relevance to this speculative presumption.

It has relevance to the civil liability
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:00 am to
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One million percent better than blame the bar because some assholes raped a girl.

Being a bar owner carries much more liability than running a taco stand. Isn’t a bar’s license dependent on following liquor laws?

One article I read indicated that Brooks was employed by the bar (probably wasn’t working that night), meaning her underage status was well known. There was likely a culture of tolerance there and this was her safe haven to have some drinks.

So how does a bar enable a known underage drinker to get her BAC up that high? There’s not an easy out for these bar owners. A bar owner must always think about the worst case scenarios that can happen, and mitigate the risk. They fricked up.


Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:02 am to
An establishment that cuts corners like this cuts corners in other ways and attracts undesirable elements. I may be wrong but I don't think this would have happened at Fred's
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:02 am to
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zero legal relevance to this speculative presumption.


Did I quote the legal relevance part or the moral outrage part?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:04 am to
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It has relevance to the civil liability


i doubt the frick out of that. but have fun typing bunch of fancy words that mean fricking nothing. Arguing that "everyone is ok with 18 yr olds being served in bars" its about the same as arguing "most people accept the consent of a drunk girl with a bac level of .319". Sorry, not buying it.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:05 am to
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Being a bar owner carries much more liability than running a taco stand. Isn’t a bar’s license dependent on following liquor laws?
why are kids under 21 allowed in these bars? Is that a Louisiana thing? For the record, I think 18 year olds/college students should be able to drink legally in bars.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:06 am to
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So how does a bar enable a known underage drinker to get her BAC up that high?


The owners are never present in bars like these. They usually have a post college aged manager but even that guy can't be there 7 nights a week. The operation of the place has been in place for decades.

It's honestly surprising disasters like this haven't happened more often
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:06 am to
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Did I quote the legal relevance part or the moral outrage part?



not sure, the dude you quoted said "deserves whatever bureaucratic hell anyone in power can throw at him."

if we agree, then we cool
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:06 am to
Anyone know how involved the bar owners are with day to day operations? I assume they have a some kind of a manager that oversees things at night. Who is the manager? It just looks like there are no adults around in the videos I’ve seen.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:07 am to
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why are kids under 21 allowed in these bars? Is that a Louisiana thing?


It's also a thing in MS and AL SEC schools, and I'd imagine others.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:07 am to
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doubt the frick out of that

You're wrong. Louisiana has a strong anti-Dram Shop act but the protection only applies to serving persons of the lawful age.

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Arguing that "everyone is ok with 18 yr olds being served

Everyone? No

Most of LA? I would think
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:07 am to
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may be wrong but I don't think this would have happened at Fred's


Exactly. I don’t know how they do it but they keep out the trash very effectively
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:09 am to
She was almost 20 years old

I think we are making too big of a deal out of 1 year. That one year in difference is much lower on the list of problems in this whole ordeal IMO
Posted by brbegone
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:09 am to
let me preface this with saying that what happened to this girl is horrible and all should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. With that being said here is my question. ....
3rd degree rape occurs when a person knew or should have known that the victim was incompacitated and not in a position to give consent. Does the person committing the act have a defense if he too is incompacitated and therefore is not able to know or should know the victim was unable to give consent? are there any criminal defense attorneys in here who can provide the answer?
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