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re: Defeat the Nurse Practitioner scope of practice expansion - Louisiana SB 187
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:16 pm to Topisawtiger
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:16 pm to Topisawtiger
I told u I'm in a field with no NPs
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:16 pm to LATigerdoc
It's about knowledge and safety
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:17 pm to LATigerdoc
If consumers want medical services from a NP, why shouldn't they be able to get them from an NP? If the services NP's provide aren't adequate, the market will adjust..
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:28 pm to LSUlunatic
When I was in medical school, we occasionally had NP students in the same ED. Several of them were weeks from graduation and still couldn't even write a passable H and P or come up with a plan besides giving fluids. At least med students with that level of incompetence are going to get fixed during residency. Those NP's were probably just unleashed on the world.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:42 pm to LATigerdoc
General surgery?
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:31 pm to Mung
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I'm not talking costs, more about availability. It's super hard to get any American physician to go work in a rural area, which is why they end up with foreigners and NPs. Heck, when o go to my physician I typically wait 30-45 minutes past my appointment, and he is working non-stop the whole time. This is an effort to resolve that issue.
NP's will not resolve that issue. And they can see as many a day as they like now. They just have to be supervised. And you can get 100% of your care from NP's if you choose to. If NP's can do so much more, why aren't they doing so now? Why is the problem not solved?
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:32 pm to LSUlunatic
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If consumers want medical services from a NP, why shouldn't they be able to get them from an NP? If the services NP's provide aren't adequate, the market will adjust..
They can. And it does. You can see the shite out of some NP's right now if you want to.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:44 pm to jennBN
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Sorry, I'm not buying this is all about pt advocacy. I work side by side with you guys and this feigned concern doesn't seem genuine.
I am sorry that this is your experience but it's incredibly offensive and unfair to paint with that broad of a brush.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:46 pm to Crimson
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I am sorry that this is your experience but it's incredibly offensive and unfair to paint with that broad of a brush.
The same can be said about insinuating all NPs are uneducated and incompetent.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:49 pm to Scooby
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The same can be said about insinuating all NPs are uneducated and incompetent.
Not really.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:52 pm to Scooby
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The same can be said about insinuating all NPs are uneducated and incompetent.
So when have I said either of these? See my first post in this thread. My stance has been consistent: autonomy MUST come with a requirement for more rigorous up front training and an assumption of all liability for care provided.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:52 pm to Crimson
I guess my question would be "where is the outrage" about pt care, lack of adequate staffing, ratios, unavailable supplies or resources...I rarely see a doc go to bat for acute care issues but worrying about the NP scope of practice gets you up in arms? Can you really say that part of this opposition is not because you feel jilted? If there was such a plethora of problems with NPs in practice the media would be all over it....hell Michael Moore would have done a documentary or two.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:52 pm to Crimson
I guess my question would be "where is the outrage" about pt care, lack of adequate staffing, ratios, unavailable supplies or resources...I rarely see a doc go to bat for acute care issues but worrying about the NP scope of practice gets you up in arms? Can you really say that part of this opposition is not because you feel jilted? If there was such a plethora of problems with NPs in practice the media would be all over it....hell Michael Moore would have done a documentary or two.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:55 pm to LATigerdoc
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It's an attempt to remove the requirement of supervision for nurse practitioners and to make them autonomous providers of healthcare without completing medical school or residency training
La di da
You really think increasing medical access in this way would be an overall negative for people?
Really?
I think you're more worried about protecting your profession than the overall well being of your fellow citizens.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:56 pm to Crimson
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My stance has been consistent: autonomy MUST come with a requirement for more rigorous up front training and an assumption of all liability for care provided.
Why?
Why not lot people decide who they want to see?
You protecting us from ourselves?
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:01 pm to uway
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Why not lot people decide who they want to see?
Using that logic, you might as well open it up to naturopaths too. They don't struggle to get patients.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:04 pm to Yellerhammer5
Steve Jobs tried it...it didn't work but it was his right to make a bad decision.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:08 pm to jennBN
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Peer review should be required for all areas of practice and there should be oversight with frequent audits of care.
Solid way to increase cost and decrease access to care.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:09 pm to jennBN
This whole argument can be summed up by why Donald Trump keeps winning - the public is just ignorant.
Which also reminds me...this topic belongs on the poli board
Which also reminds me...this topic belongs on the poli board
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:13 pm to jennBN
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I rarely see a doc go to bat for acute care issues
What acute care issues are being legislated right now?
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