re: Decisions: Shell Norco or Exxon Refinery

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EM is going be much stronger company in the future b/c of their position in chemicals.

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This. They are making big moves in Texas right now. They just built 2 world class ethylene crackers and are about to build another and a major LNG liquefaction plant

I don't want to post numbers on here

Wtf. Most here was like 700hrs and the guy was signing up on every overtime list, and worked the turnaround.

Are you at a major??

Avoid Exxon, place is a rusted out death trap and you have btr traffic to deal with. Shell all the way, grats

The work culture is pretty different between XOM and Shell.

Is the Norco offer for the refinery or chem side? XOM interview for refinery side? Coker vs Crude unit vs FCCU vs Alky vs Chemicals makes a huge difference.

Both are integrated sites, so long term outlook is fairly strong and both should remain a part of the primary company portfolio. They are both selling off non-integrated assets. XOM recently announced large investments in the area whereas Shell has not, although they have been investing (Norco Hydrocracker, Geismar Expansion, etc).

A previous poster mentioned working at a site as a contractor, then at the other as a employee. Regardless of the site, that makes a huge difference.

Pay and benefits are very similar. Shell pays a bonus whereas XOM does not. Both are USW represented. Health benefits are similar. 401k is similar, XOM at 7% match and Shell starting at 2.5% progressing up to 10%.

Both have multiple sites within the area that allows some flexibility. Operators tend to have the same path to promotion and usually top out around the same levels (a straight days production specialist type role or shift team leader).

Shell Norco is for the refinery side and the Exxon interview says the main complex. I'm thinking that's the refinery but may be wrong. I know they have separate interviews for the Plastics and BRPO locations. Thanks for all the info!!

So why don't you become an operator?

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So why don't you become an operato

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Because I make what they make and I haven't worked a night, a Saturday, nor a Sunday since 2001(99-01 I was entry level programmer on go-lives. so, we worked a lot of nights in shite holes all over Texas).

So it seems they are paid inline with what they should be.