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re: Dallas Police Shooting of 15 year old: Update: OFFICER FIRED
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:21 pm to OKellsBells
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:21 pm to OKellsBells
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Anyone charged with routinely making split-second, life-altering decisions will eventually make grievous mistakes.
Shooting at a car moving away from you is like a college basketball player running full court w/ the basketball & not dribbling.
That kind of mistake is so egregious, most 11 year olds wouldn't make it, for perspective here
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:22 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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That'll show him. I mean he will get charged with something. But how many of us would still be walking free and only fired from our job?
How about the guy that shot Joe McKnight? Take your bullshite elsewhere.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:24 pm to OKellsBells
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I empathize with everyone involved in these cases.
I don't usually. Especially not this case.
I've been involved in these. I'm currently on non enforcement status due to it.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:25 pm to No Colors
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But the cop? The cop is absolutely fricked and is going to jail
Probably be rough on him on the inside. I hope he doesn't but he may choose an alternative to prison. With what the call was doesn't justify deadly force with the vehicle pulling away.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:27 pm to StrongSafety
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You have to understand the black experience to understand the defense of those men
No I don't. At all. Because when I discuss those cases and whether or not the defendants should be guilty or not, I do so with impartiality and deference to the facts and circumstances of the case and how they correspond with the law. I don't give a flying frick what color anybody was.
What you have effectively admitted, in direct contradiction to your remarks earlier that it is rather to the contrary, is that you and a large segment of the black community (and political left in general) DO NOT do so. Making you...wait for it...INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST. Isn't the irony thick enough to choke on?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
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How many of these metros/cities have also lowered their standards for entry into their police departments to either "diversify" or to bolster their numbers because they're having a hard time finding halfway decent applicants?
Yep and you've got to realize that this is Balch Springs. It's pretty much the shithole of the Dallas area. The cops that didn't make it to Plano, Allen, Keller, Carrollton, and maybe even DPD ended up in Balch Springs. Certainly not the cream of the crop....
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:31 pm to Pocket Kingz
I agree there are police officers (like this one) who aren't compatible with the job.
It is just unfortunate that such rare occurrences become fodder for a small, histrionic, yet disproportionally vocal group who are determined to create unease, distrust, and anarchy.
It is just unfortunate that such rare occurrences become fodder for a small, histrionic, yet disproportionally vocal group who are determined to create unease, distrust, and anarchy.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:32 pm to OKellsBells
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is just unfortunate that such rare occurrences become fodder for a small, histrionic, yet disproportionally vocal group who are determined to create unease, distrust, and anarchy.
Police covering for police isn't rare.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:34 pm to StrongSafety
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You have to understand the black experience to understand the defense of those men
Yes, because all black people have the exact same experience. That's nice stereotyping of black folks there
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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How about the guy that shot Joe McKnight? Take your bullshite elsewhere.
He was released within hours, then rearrested several days later.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:40 pm to No Colors
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It takes a little while to summon a GJ and get an indictment on something like this. What they did today was spot on:
I understand that. But why would he not still be arrested as soon as they saw the crime? (hopefully he is tonight). If you or I shot at a car driving away and the people in the car were not committing a violent crime or any crime we know of and shot at the car killing someone, the cops would arrest us as soon as they saw the video. I am not saying he won't be arrested, because he will. But he is getting more leeway because he is a cop.
I guess in the end, it does not really matter in this case
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:42 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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o. I am not saying he won't be arrested, because he will. But he is getting more leeway because he is a cop.
Nope.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:45 pm to Rebelgator
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Nope.
Go shoot at a car driving away, killing someone and lie about it. Say they were backing up to you aggressively. Let it be on video that they were not. Watch what happens to you.
Do you really think cops don't get the benefit of the doubt most of the time?
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:48 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Go shoot at a car driving away, killing someone and lie about it. Say they were backing up to you aggressively. Let it be on video that they were not. Watch what happens to you.
Do you really think cops don't get the benefit of the doubt most of the time?
Actually...black girl in jail right now charged with five counts of attempted murder for firing into a car.
No GJ needed to be charged.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:48 pm to magildachunks
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Actually...black girl in jail right now charged with five counts of attempted murder for firing into a car. No GJ needed to be charged.
Yep.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:50 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I'm a cop so, no.
BTW, different circumstances require different methods. Quit being obtuse.
Also, lets go from time it was determined a crime was committed and time an arrest occurred on the case mentioned above. Then let's compare it to this current one when an arrest is made.
BTW, different circumstances require different methods. Quit being obtuse.
Also, lets go from time it was determined a crime was committed and time an arrest occurred on the case mentioned above. Then let's compare it to this current one when an arrest is made.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:51 pm to Rebelgator
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I'm a cop so, no.
Of course you don't think cops get special treatment.
And I bet you think they don't cover for each other either too.
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Quit being obtuse.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:53 pm to LSUTANGERINE
You may have a point here, but on average, I'm going to assume it takes a bit longer to sort through the facts in a police shooting.
A shooting when the police show up is far more "normal" than a random shooting on the street. Far more often a police shooting is going to be justifiable, so I think to compare it to citizens shooting each other is a bit difficult.
A shooting when the police show up is far more "normal" than a random shooting on the street. Far more often a police shooting is going to be justifiable, so I think to compare it to citizens shooting each other is a bit difficult.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:54 pm to Rebelgator
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Also, lets go from time it was determined a crime was committed and time an arrest occurred on the case mentioned above. Then let's compare it to this current one when an arrest is made.
I wasn't trying to make an assumption with the comparison, just remembered that I read the article today about that broad.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:54 pm to Pettifogger
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shooting when the police show up is far more "normal" than a random shooting on the street. Far more often a police shooting is going to be justifiable, so I think to compare it to citizens shooting each other is a bit difficult.
Exactly.
The time from determination of a crime to arrest when a party isn't initially detained will be quicker in this case than an average shooting.
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