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re: Crude oil up nearly 6%

Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:37 pm to
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So energy costs have no affect on the end user costs of consumer products?

Man, I literally have acknowledged in every post that I understand that it has impact on input costs for everything, but I do think that relative to the inflation of everything else, over the same time period, and on average (because it's a semi-volitile commodity), that it's remained relatively cheap related to other goods.

If your state government bends you over on it than you voted for that. Gas is as cheap today, relative to inflation, as it was 32 years ago when I started buying it.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:37 pm to
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but there is already a crude glut
There really isn't until late 3Q25 at the earliest. Crude burn increases so dramatically in MENA in summer that inventories will hold very manageable levels until then.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78357 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:37 pm to
If oil prices become higher China will slow it's buying....less demand.

Marginally higher prices bring back in oil fields that have been recently closed.

$70/bbl crude is a lot different than $60/bbls crude on the production side.

Doesnt mean much at the pump.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78357 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:40 pm to
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There really isn't until late 3Q25 at the earliest. Crude burn increases so dramatically in MENA in summer that inventories will hold very manageable levels until then.


It is already there. The market is stalling and despite all the things that should drive up price nothing is moving the needle for more than a few days.

Id be surprised if this Israel news sticks around until Thursday.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Marginally higher prices bring back in oil fields that have been recently closed.

$70/bbl crude is a lot different than $60/bbls crude on the production side.

Eh. L48 has dropped 50 rigs in 8 weeks and they aren't coming back en masse due to Iran turmoil. Some of the smarter producers are hedging some future prod with WTI in the mid $60s, but US prod is coming off regardless of Middle East conflict.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78357 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:47 pm to
Once it is down then they are going to be hard to restart at the price.

We maybe see 80-85 then hold. 100 seems a ways off.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:50 pm to
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It is already there. The market is stalling and despite all the things that should drive up price nothing is moving the needle for more than a few days.

"Stalling" at healthy global levels all things considered. Idk that stalling is the word I'd use.
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Id be surprised if this Israel news sticks around until Thursday.

Well yeah because Iran barrels make it to market regardless of what fake sanctions the US puts on them. The only impact to market is total shipping costs go up because people have to go around the Cape of Good Hope if the Strait of Hormuz traffic dies.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:52 pm to
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Once it is down then they are going to be hard to restart at the price.

Sorta conflicts with "Marginally higher prices bring back in oil fields that have been recently closed."
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78357 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:52 pm to
Houthis killed most of that.

Whatever the Iranian/Russian movements were this week we now know why.

There will be some lag, I just dont see a huge gap yet.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29719 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:53 pm to
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quote: China and Russia are crying right now Why


It’s where both have been getting their cheap oil and gas from. This now means they will be forced to pay top dollar to another provider now that this is off line.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78357 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:54 pm to
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Sorta conflicts with "Marginally higher prices bring back in oil fields that have been recently closed."


Not really. They won't sit on the sidelines if the futures are showing a better value.

They dont need $120 to restart, just need a better longterm.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36710 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78357 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:57 pm to
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It’s where both have been getting their cheap oil and gas from. This now means they will be forced to pay top dollar to another provider now that this is off line


It is less than 100Kbd, they ain't providing shite outside of their shadow.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51688 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:17 pm to
Apparently Birmingham area gas stations were informed this was coming because they raised prices back up into the $2.70’s a couple of days ago.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8010 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:47 am to
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Get a hurricane into the gulf and we will see 4+ a gallon this summer.


If you jinx me and I have to shut this place down just to start it back up 3 days later, we will be at Sonic.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41031 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:03 am to
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Where do you think the increased inflation we experienced during the Biden administration came from? Sound energy policy?


Energy was a drag on inflation for the vast majority of biden’s term.

We produced more oil than ever during Biden’s presidency. You knew that, right?
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7802 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:31 am to
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Gas is probably about flat with inflation for the past 30 years imo, if not lower.


Pizza too

Go figure…
Posted by The Scofflaw
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:36 am to
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:37 am to
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Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17432 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:45 am to
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Crude oil up nearly 6%


I know. Looked at the premarket price of my offshore driller stock and it’s finally swinging upward after a winter and spring that did it no favors.

Awesome isn’t it?
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