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re: Critical race theory - What is it?

Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:20 pm to
I'd summarize with three main features:

1) Individuals are irrelevant. You're a member of a group. Either a POC or white. If you're a POC who doesn't believe what other POC believe, you're white. By virtue of your group, you're a victim or you're an oppressor. If you're black and don't think you're a victim - guess what? You're an enabler of white oppression and not really black.

2) In conjunction with #1, racism is the natural state of things and is always present. White people are always racist and thus racism is present in any interaction with white people. Black people are always victims of racism no matter the actual circumstances. Hence, white people can't really evade their racism and black people can't avoid being victims.

3) The above mean we must question existing beliefs about sources of knowledge and promote other ways of knowing. Science, being largely a white field created and designed to promote whiteness, must be discounted and other ways of knowing must be elevated as equally valid. Apply this to anything semi-objective (math, linguistic rules, etc.).


Posted by texasmason
Dallas
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Thats how I can tell who has never stepped foot on a college campus as a student


This wasn't a thing when I was in college back in the early 2000's.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:21 pm to
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I'd bet so. Meanwhile all my targeted ads are hot sauces

In fairness, these teachings are proliferating within university settings and in a decade they will start leeching into corporations.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:21 pm to
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I didn't pay attention to what the crazies were yelling about in the quad in 2006-10


Anyone who's taken a class in sociology or philosophy is well versed in the tenets of critical theory.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:22 pm to
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This wasn't a thing when I was in college back in the early 2000's


He's apparently 50 years old so all he knows of college campuses is they i are indoctrinating the yutes wit Marxist ideology and every professor pushes critical race theory. He probably read it on the poli board so it has to be true
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:23 pm to
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Their belief is based on anti-positivity, which means their theories cannot be proved by science or data.

If true, this is actually pretty damn devious.

Policy based on emotion or "feelings" without empirical data? It immediately (and easily) thwarts any type of logical argument.

Very interesting approach. And terrifying.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:23 pm to

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Anyone who's taken a class in sociology or philosophy is well versed in the tenets of critical theory.



Rog, come on. That's not true.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:23 pm to
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NETx county ISD'S aren't doing it. And won't.


Likely are.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:23 pm to
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He's apparently 50 years old so all he knows of college campuses is they i are indoctrinating the yutes wit Marxist ideology and every professor pushes critical race theory. He probably read it on the poli board so it has to be true

Lulz
Posted by texasmason
Dallas
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:24 pm to
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college campuses is they i are indoctrinating the yutes wit Marxist ideology and every professor pushes critical race theory


But am I wrong?

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:25 pm to
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Can someone please explain critical race theory to me in layman's terms?
there are two group of people in the world, oppressors and the oppressed. All white people are inherit oppressors and all POC, with a focus on black, are the oppressed. Everything that an oppressors does is to further oppress the oppressed. I mean everything, even if it's not intended

Example

You have two people in a store. One white, one black. If you help the black person first, you are racist because you want to get the black person out of your store and are afraid that they will steal. If you help the white person first, you are racist because you are giving them the privilege of being helped at the expense of the black person

It can be expanded to the general idea that all social systems and norms were put in place by white oppressors so therefore everything from the judicial system, to law enforcement, to social norms are all racist and all singularly exist to keep black people and other POC down
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:26 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:26 pm to
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This wasn't a thing when I was in college back in the early 2000's.


You study any marx? Take sociology or philosophy?

You know what CRT or CT is all about.

Its just the systemizing of marxism in a cultural and social order. It views the world as predators and they prey.

Where it differs from old school liberal beliefs is that these people do not believe in equality. They have accepted the idea that certain minority groups are absolutely helpless and the only way to help them is to rig the system in their favor

President Biden is the most notorious supporter.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:26 pm to
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But am I wrong?



My lil bro just finished his 2nd year and he hasn't mentioned it. He's a trump supporter
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:27 pm to
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Critical race theory - What is it?

Don’t care. More interested in getting my bird wet.
Posted by texasmason
Dallas
Member since Apr 2019
1300 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:28 pm to
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You study any marx? Take sociology or philosophy?


Actually no. I never left the business buildings. Those were not part of my degree programs.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Thats how I can tell who has never stepped foot on a college campus as a student


I mean I went To LSU in the late 2000s

And never heard of it.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:29 pm to
It is the theory that most, if not all, of modern Western Civilization is foundationally based on white supremacy and racism. This is particularly true, according to the theory's proponents, regarding the founding of the USA and all of its history that followed.

IN other words, everything you've learned about American history that does not paint it as hateful and racist and completely based on keeping black and brown people down is wrong.

It is obviously oversimplified, ideological horseshite, but education at all levels has bought in as well as corporations. And now we have a federal government completely devoted to it as well.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76102 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Integration didn't work.


I’m from the New Orleans area and Integration Barely happened.
Posted by Yoda Baby
Member since May 2021
128 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:33 pm to
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I’m from the New Orleans area and Integration Barely happened.
So you never went to school with someone of another race?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283258 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Their belief is based on anti-positivity, which means their theories cannot be proved by science or data.

If true, this is actually pretty damn devious.



Oh, it is

Things like objectivity are hated by CRT proponents

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In sociology and political philosophy, "Critical Theory" means the Western-Marxist philosophy of the Frankfurt School, developed in Germany in the 1930s and drawing on the ideas of Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud.

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The Frankfurt School perspective of critical investigation (open-ended and self-critical) is based upon Freudian, Marxist and Hegelian premises of idealist philosophy.[2]

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Critical theory analyzes the true significance of the ruling understandings (the dominant ideology) generated in bourgeois society in order to show that the dominant ideology misrepresents how human relations occur in the real world and how capitalism justifies and legitimates the domination of people.


Here is the kicker

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Antipositivism (also known as interpretivism or interpretive sociology) is the view in social science that the social realm may not be subject to the same methods of investigation as the natural world; that academics must reject empiricism and the scientific method in the conduct of social research. Antipositivists hold that researchers should focus on understanding the interpretations that social actions have for the people being studied.


They literally created a pseudo science that is NOT based on objectivity to explain the outcome they wanted.

Its as anti science as you can get. THis is what controls the Democrat party.
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