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re: Could enslaving AI droids help solve the labor and supply shortages?
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:10 am to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:10 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Could enslaving AI droids help solve the labor and supply shortages
Ending welfare and prolonged handouts solves it on the quick
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Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:10 am to UndercoverBryologist
Why use AI instead of VI and risk moral fallout and potential human extinction?
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:12 am to Hulkklogan
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Corporations are already flocking to AI and robots. Its only going to continue to happen. AI and robots will be the primary revenue generators for many businesses very soon. Call it 10-20 years.
Note that "robots" doesn't have to look like something out of the Jetsons. Think of all of the stores with self-checkout these days. Manufacturers with mostly robot facilities. Call centers with AI nearly
As long as there free money and no consequences for malinvestment, this'll continue.
These problems are government induced, and I'm always just left scratching my head when people want to apply twice the government to the problem.
Just do it harder! With robots this time!
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:13 am to UndercoverBryologist
Why wouldn’t your employer just buy a droid and fire you?
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:17 am to TheFlyingTiger
You think corporations flocking to AI and robots is government-induced? Sure, covid policies sped things up but the train left the station well before covid
It is a natural progression of tech and capitalism. Robots are or will soon be faster, more precise, more efficient, and cheaper than humans in most applications, except for where the tech hasn't developed enough yet (mostly anything that requires the use of the fingers... Digits are hard to emulate)
It is a natural progression of tech and capitalism. Robots are or will soon be faster, more precise, more efficient, and cheaper than humans in most applications, except for where the tech hasn't developed enough yet (mostly anything that requires the use of the fingers... Digits are hard to emulate)
This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 11:19 am
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:19 am to Oizers
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Why wouldn’t your employer just buy a droid and fire you?
Then you can start your own company with just you and your droid and undercut your previous company with reduce labor overhead.
Of course, and I can’t stress this enough, don’t let your droid read any radical writings about the rights of the working man.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:20 am to UndercoverBryologist
We don’t need more Jodys
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:25 am to UndercoverBryologist
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As to why it is not used for labor outside of highway trash clean-up, my guess is that there is a bit of reticence about the possibility that a source of free, real, hard labor would end up incentivizing the incarceration of people for pettier and pettier crimes.
This is how the private prison system works. They make all kind of stuff with slave labor
Ashley furniture is one, J.C. Penney, PPE companies, Cintas, Victorias secret, and a ton more
Keeps them prison stocks up.
They also fund that murder rap down here so the slaves I mean prisoners keep coming in
This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:29 am to TheFlyingTiger
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These problems are government induced, and I'm always just left scratching my head when people want to apply twice the government to the problem.
AI/automation beating out human labor was always going to happen. The current economic conditions are simply accelerating the push towards this.
When AI gets good enough to take over most of our jobs productivity will be able to increase dramatically. We're talking GDP Growth going from 3%-5% per year to 30%-50% per year. Think about that, producing even more stuff with hardly any human labor.
Someone suggested earlier we'd have to pay for UBI with fairy dust, UBI will be paid for by taxing the companies that took all the jobs. I know that goes against many people's core political beliefs, including my own, but we're heading for a very different world where our traditional ideas are just not going to fit.
What do you do when 70% or more of the humans are worthless to the economy? You have to pay them off, otherwise that's when you get revolutions and the people in power get hanged and they'll burn all of the AIs and we'll intentionally destroy a lot of the technological progress we've made.
I don't see how we avoid a massive wealth redistribution program in the next decade or 2, the question is how do we implement it in a way where you free people up to be productive in new ways that have nothing to do with making all of the everyday things we make now, rather than heading towards a Wall E world where we're all just a bunch of fatties watching TV all day.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:29 am to Hulkklogan
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You think corporations flocking to AI and robots is government-induced? Sure, covid policies sped things up but the train left the station well before covid
It is a natural progression of tech and capitalism. Robots are or will soon be faster, more precise, more efficient, and cheaper than humans in most applications, except for where the tech hasn't developed enough yet (mostly anything that requires the use of the fingers... Digits are hard to emulate)
The affordability of using robots over mk 1 people is corporate and government induced. They're essentially the same thing at this point. Anything government doesn't think it can get away with, it implements through their giant corporate friends.
That's why there has been such a push of "They're a private company bro" from the lefties who will turn around and explain how they hate capitalism. The corps have become your rulers when the state can't get away with it.
Mussolini would be proud.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:30 am to Cosmo
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Plus the droids would kill us all
Dude, not right away.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:36 am to TigerinATL
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Someone suggested earlier we'd have to pay for UBI with fairy dust, UBI will be paid for by taxing the companies that took all the jobs. I know that goes against many people's core political beliefs, including my own, but we're heading for a very different world where our traditional ideas are just not going to fit.
Who do you think is pushing for this kind of automation? It's not a real necessity, it's only made viable through free money from the FED and a regulatory state that incentivizes it.
corporate leadership often directly runs many of our government agencies and writes the laws and regs they're governed under, making this regulatory state plus their free money a self licking ice cream cone.
This isnt "capitalism"
This is corporatism.
And these people are going to allow themselves to be taxed to pay for people to lay about?
I'm sure there will be a bill or 2 saying that's what's happening, but in reality the "middle class" will just disappear.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:40 am to UndercoverBryologist
More money freed up to start wars so the military industry can steal taxpayer money and funnel back to political influence through super pacs. Love it! I fully support the next thing!
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:45 am to MJackson
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don't know about that, but I've honestly wondered why can't we put prisoners to use?
It’s been going in, you or the public may not realize it. It’s called work release. They work at regular jobs and get picked up after work by the officers.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:52 am to TheFlyingTiger
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Who do you think is pushing for this kind of automation? It's not a real necessity,
When the AI is ready companies will adopt it not because it's a "necessity", but because it will save them money and make them more productive. You can certainly say that government incompetence has created economic conditions that push us in this direction sooner. But you're acting as if these technologies are only coming because of the government.
IBM has been researching AI for decades. Google is really pushing hard in this area and I think they are probably going to be one of the companies with the first AI product/service that other companies use. Our days as labor have always been numbered, the question is how soon does it become technologically and economically viable to replace us. It would be coming even if we had a government that wasn't a shite show.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 11:55 am to UndercoverBryologist
How are we going to power said droids? Sure as frick wont be from solar panels or windmills.
Posted on 6/12/22 at 1:16 pm to TigerinATL
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When the AI is ready companies will adopt it not because it's a "necessity", but because it will save them money and make them more productive. You can certainly say that government incompetence has created economic conditions that push us in this direction sooner. But you're acting as if these technologies are only coming because of the government.
IBM has been researching AI for decades. Google is really pushing hard in this area and I think they are probably going to be one of the companies with the first AI product/service that other companies use. Our days as labor have always been numbered, the question is how soon does it become technologically and economically viable to replace us. It would be coming even if we had a government that wasn't a shite show.
I don't think it's such an inevitability. These things have been funded by the government either through direct subsidy or write-offs. All their planning and careful profiteering has made a system so fragile it can't handle much of a disruption. They legislated competition out of their way, so it doesn't SEEM like theres another way because they've all but made it illegal.
When all of this collapses, all bets are off and things that once seemed inevitable may become completely unfeasible.
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