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Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:44 am to doublecutter
The only thing our dental hygienist does it take X-rays, gives fluoride, and holds the suction. My dentist charges only $115 and does all the cleaning himself.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:47 am to tigergirl10
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The only thing our dental hygienist does it take X-rays, gives fluoride, and holds the suction. My dentist charges only $115 and does all the cleaning himself.
Wow that is rare.
I marvel at how dentists' offices are so geared to get the absolutely minimally qualified person to do each task. I see my dentist for 90 seconds tops.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 5:06 am to doublecutter
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This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:07 am to gthog61
My dentist spends less than 30 seconds looking in my mouth during his examinations.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:34 am to ruzil
says the genius who types which twice in last sentence
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:39 am to doublecutter
Deep cleanings we’re invented by these new chain dental practices to be able to make more money than insurance will pay. Dentists are always looking for another avenue to make money and work 3 days a week.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 7:46 am to tilco
It was invented by dentists who, rightfully, feel they should be reimbursed for TIME. It takes much longer to clean a sewer-mouth than it does the average joe, and often requires anesthesia.
The problem as per usual, comes in with insurance reimbursement. There needs to be some way to quantify the necessity of the deep cleaning for approval by dental insurance. The ADA outlines these conditions that must be met, and they make sense. They are objective but not often measurable by data submitted on a claim. Therefore, in many shady offices, subjective, forced, or even falsified data is sent in on the claim for approval, the insurance approves it, and the patient thinks “oh it must be necessary”
The problem as per usual, comes in with insurance reimbursement. There needs to be some way to quantify the necessity of the deep cleaning for approval by dental insurance. The ADA outlines these conditions that must be met, and they make sense. They are objective but not often measurable by data submitted on a claim. Therefore, in many shady offices, subjective, forced, or even falsified data is sent in on the claim for approval, the insurance approves it, and the patient thinks “oh it must be necessary”
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 7:48 am
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:42 am to lesgeaux
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t was invented by dentists who, rightfully, feel they should be reimbursed for TIME. It takes much longer to clean a sewer-mouth than it does the average joe, and often requires anesthesia.
You’re probably right. The problem is that they try to apply it to everyone who hasn’t seen a dentist Ina year.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 8:53 am to tilco
Exactly - not all are like that, but it happens for sure, unfortunately, just like any industry
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 9:04 am
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:18 am to Tigershatebama
The responses in here from people who have no idea what srp is yet think they have the answer to the op’s question is comical. Same people who act like virologists when it comes to Covid and call people idiots for not believing them.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:20 am to lesgeaux
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It was invented by dentists who, rightfully, feel they should be reimbursed for TIME. It takes much longer to clean a sewer-mouth than it does the average joe, and often requires anesthesia.
Lol Come to my office some day. I’ll show you some radiographs of people who let perio disease go unchecked. And a regular prophy will not fix the issue. It’s way more than Just time.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:27 am to Vinny V
I agree with you and don’t deny that many of your patients probably do need the service and it is justified.
My point, however, is that SRP is oftentimes over-diagnosed and, as a patient, if you feel you go in for cleanings regularly and have pretty normal at-home oral hygiene, and you are still told you need SRP, it could be in your interest to get a second opinion. I see it happen routinely.
Now that’s not to say you can’t have the outlier case where genetics still overcome OH practices, or you have the antiquated dentist who is 80 and neglects perio because of how he was trained when he was in school. Obviously THAT also happens and a lot of those patients are denture cases waiting to happen.
My point, however, is that SRP is oftentimes over-diagnosed and, as a patient, if you feel you go in for cleanings regularly and have pretty normal at-home oral hygiene, and you are still told you need SRP, it could be in your interest to get a second opinion. I see it happen routinely.
Now that’s not to say you can’t have the outlier case where genetics still overcome OH practices, or you have the antiquated dentist who is 80 and neglects perio because of how he was trained when he was in school. Obviously THAT also happens and a lot of those patients are denture cases waiting to happen.
This post was edited on 8/15/20 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/15/20 at 9:39 am to lesgeaux
Ah yes I see what you mean. I’ve seen people who have come to my office and say another doctor said they need it when they had one 5 mm probing depth lol
Posted on 8/15/20 at 10:15 am to doublecutter
No clue, as with plumbing, electrical, carpentry, automotive, etc. I do my own work.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 10:17 am to Vinny V
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I’ll show you some radiographs of people who let perio disease go unchecked.
Don't do that, my fiancee is a Prosthodontist.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 10:46 am to doublecutter
At my age, I have some bone loss and receding gums, so I get a deep cleaning twice a year. I have all four quadrants done at once. Dental insurance covers part, but I still have to pay almost $1k out of pocket.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 10:57 am to blueridgeTiger
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At my age, I have some bone loss and receding gums, so I get a deep cleaning twice a year. I have all four quadrants done at once.
How long are you in the chair for a all at once cleaning. The hygienist doing mine says 45 minutes to one hour per quandrant. So are you in the chair for 3 to 4 hours?
Posted on 8/15/20 at 11:10 am to doublecutter
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So are you in the chair for 3 to 4 hours?
From the time he administered Novacain till he was finished with the deep cleaning was about 3 hours.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 3:25 pm to tigergirl10
Hygienist here. If the dentist is doing your cleaning, find a new office. Also, the person assisting the dentist is the dental ASSISTANT. Hygienists don't assist the dentist.
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