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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:06 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:06 pm to Sasquatch Smash
It begs the question wether or not this virus has been around a lot longer than we think and the people with pre existing T cell immunity we hear about actually had the virus already. Only piece of the puzzle that doesn’t fit with that is the spike in total excess mortality.
Either way, evidence has been mounting that the antibody studies are actually underestimating the true extent of disease
Where is buckeyevol?
He needs to see this
Either way, evidence has been mounting that the antibody studies are actually underestimating the true extent of disease
Where is buckeyevol?
He needs to see this
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:12 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Potential critiques of that study:
- I don’t know the accuracy of the Aurora Biomed test which is a finger prick.
- low power with only 350 participants and they don’t discuss how these people were selected.
Even so, they aren’t testing for IgA antibodies. Previous studies have shown that there are a good bit of people who don’t have IgG/IgM but have IgA in blood and mucosal surfaces.
- I don’t know the accuracy of the Aurora Biomed test which is a finger prick.
- low power with only 350 participants and they don’t discuss how these people were selected.
Even so, they aren’t testing for IgA antibodies. Previous studies have shown that there are a good bit of people who don’t have IgG/IgM but have IgA in blood and mucosal surfaces.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:21 am to WaWaWeeWa
And now the science starts rolling in on the mask front...clearly the virus mutated to circumvent mask use, not that they were always ineffective...
Fox News link discussing pre-print research from Houston.
Here is the pre-print study.
Unsurprisingly, the paper doesn't mention mask use anywhere within. It's all media fearmongering to bring masks into the discussion.
Fox News link discussing pre-print research from Houston.
quote:
Scientists in a paper published Wednesday identified a new strain of the virus, which accounted for 99.9 percent of cases during the second wave in the Houston, Texas, area, the Washington Post reported.
The paper, which has not been peer-reviewed, said people with the strain, known as the D614G mutation, had higher loads of virus — suggesting it is more contagious.
Though the strain isn’t more deadly, researchers said it appeared to have adapted better to spread among humans.
Here is the pre-print study.
Unsurprisingly, the paper doesn't mention mask use anywhere within. It's all media fearmongering to bring masks into the discussion.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:24 am to Sasquatch Smash
quote:
known as the D614G mutation, had higher loads of virus — suggesting it is more contagious.
But there wasn’t as many deaths, so is it less deadly?
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:33 am to Sasquatch Smash
Well if masks and social distancing don't work, time to open up since restrictions are therefore pointless.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:45 am to WaWaWeeWa
Sorry...I left out a key player in that bit of fearmongering.
And who is David Morens at NIAID?...One of Fauci's senior scientific advisors.
quote:
David Morens, a virologist at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the findings suggest that the virus may become more contagious and that this “may have implications for our ability to control it.”
And who is David Morens at NIAID?...One of Fauci's senior scientific advisors.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:15 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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- low power with only 350 participants and they don’t discuss how these people were selected.
Looking back at this, the smaller number of 350 were people of the 615 healthy volunteers that tested during the two different time periods.
So, it was a smaller subsample that gave them the info that the IgM antibodies waned over time.
Definitely not the most powerful of studies, regardless. Good pilot information, and a jumping off point for larger studies elsewhere.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 8:08 am to Sasquatch Smash
I believe I read somewhere that the antibodies have a half-life for mild patients of 35 days or so.
I’m curious about how accurate testing is as well. My wife (no pics) had negative antibody tests this month (not sure what type of test). In March my child’s daycare teacher was hospitalized for Covid (history of asthma and respiratory issues). Well the school shut down and my family all got sick. We couldn’t get tested due to the supply being held for the elderly at the time. But the doctors told us our symptoms fit the profile and to self quarantine. I’m assuming there are many out there who’ve had it yet no longer have antibodies. Is that where T cells come In to play? Can those people get the virus again due to low numbers of anti bodies or are these tests just looking at the wrong types of antibodies in the blood?
I’m curious about how accurate testing is as well. My wife (no pics) had negative antibody tests this month (not sure what type of test). In March my child’s daycare teacher was hospitalized for Covid (history of asthma and respiratory issues). Well the school shut down and my family all got sick. We couldn’t get tested due to the supply being held for the elderly at the time. But the doctors told us our symptoms fit the profile and to self quarantine. I’m assuming there are many out there who’ve had it yet no longer have antibodies. Is that where T cells come In to play? Can those people get the virus again due to low numbers of anti bodies or are these tests just looking at the wrong types of antibodies in the blood?
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:10 am to Scrimpin Gary
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Can those people get the virus again due to low numbers of anti bodies or are these tests just looking at the wrong types of antibodies in the blood?
They may be able to at some unknown time in the future but it’s extremely unlikely that it would be a severe illness.
Even though you don’t have detectable antibodies in the blood you have memory antibodies in your bone marrow that will activate very quickly if you get exposed again. It would probably be like a common cold at worst, more likely asymptomatic second time around
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:39 am to WaWaWeeWa
I believe BNO now has reinfection tracker that could be worth keeping up with. It's got the 15-20 confirmed cases and is tracking how symptoms compare from first infection to second infection.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 11:28 am to jackwoods4
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It's got the 15-20 confirmed cases and is tracking how symptoms compare from first infection to second infection.
What are the results so far?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:32 am to WaWaWeeWa
This accepted pre-print likely won't be discussed anywhere. It doesn't fall in line with the doom and gloom.
Discusses children born to SARS 2.0 "positive" mothers.
Discusses children born to SARS 2.0 "positive" mothers.
quote:
SARS-CoV-2 status was not associated with birth weight, difficulty breathing, apnea or upper or lower respiratory infection through 8 weeks of age.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 6:33 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:People that you aren't around cannot make you sick. That shouldn't be hard for anyone to understand.
Well if masks and social distancing don't work, time to open up since restrictions are therefore pointless.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:56 pm to Whiznot
It's a hoax
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:28 pm to frankthetank
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:01 am to Volvagia
This thing really is over. No more sticky.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:15 am to ell_13
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This thing really is over. No more sticky.
I don't agree. I liked posting positive science and news in here, but I was one of the few still active in the thread.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:29 am to Sasquatch Smash
I enjoy your posts. Just bump it whenever you find something good.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 7:53 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:+1
I enjoy your posts. Just bump it whenever you find something good.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 8:15 am to ell_13
quote:
This thing really is over. No more sticky.
It was a good run.
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