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re: Cop stops man for walking with his hands in his pockets during freezing weather
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:02 pm to el Gaucho
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:02 pm to el Gaucho
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It always disappoints me at how many people don't back the badge on here. One day when you are inconvenienced in traffic by a motorist with a turn signal out you'll wish you had a police officer to save you
If I'm doing nothing wrong, I don't mind taking an hour out of my day if the officer wishes.
OTO, if someone gets THAT defensive over talking to an officer for less than a minute, history shows they're trying to hide something. That would raise my suspicion at least.
The officer taking the phone out to record the suspect was funny, but probably isn't something that would de-escalate the dude's attitude.
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:11 pm to nola000
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I know it looks corny but thats a mistake. Nowadays you should want your whole life recorded for your own protection. Video evidence can absolve you of all kinds of liability in life if youre a law abiding citizen.
There is a reason Uber, Tax cab and other commercial and contract drivers employ dash cams at all times.
I don't get into skirmishes.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:25 pm to TheMidasTouch
He sounded like a criminal to me
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:32 pm to TSLG
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Other than that, the cop didn't do anything wrong
Does Scruffy agree?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:46 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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This is just bitching about nothing by a bunch of pussies like yourself. Big deal the guy talked to the cop for a few moments and went on about his day.
Cuck a doodle doo.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:58 pm to Breesus
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guy was acting suspiciously.
Acting suspiciously in not against the law and the man did not have to answer the cops questions. I would have told the cop to get bent. This isn't fricking NAZI Germany where you have to produce papers on command.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:52 pm to LSUERDOC
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I would have told the cop to get bent. This isn't fricking NAZI Germany where you have to produce papers on command.
Of course you would have.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:01 pm to LSUERDOC
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Acting suspiciously in not against the law and the man did not have to answer the cops questions.
No one is saying he HAD to answer the cop's questions. Seems like he actually was fairly cooperative .
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I would have told the cop to get bent.
Are you black? Because this is why black people get shot by cops, not smart enough to just say "no officer see I'm not doing anything wrong, thanks for asking and have a nice day" and go on with their fricking day.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:13 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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f I'm doing nothing wrong, I don't mind taking an hour out of my day if the officer wishes.
An hour?
Screw that. If I’m doing nothing wrong we should be able to establish that in a few minutes.
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OTO, if someone gets THAT defensive over talking to an officer for less than a minute, history shows they're trying to hide something. That would raise my suspicion at least.
Or it could be the case that this guy gets stopped repeatedly. Could be his fault, maybe not.
I wouldn’t assume he’s “hiding anything”.
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The officer taking the phone out to record the suspect was funny, but probably isn't something that would de-escalate the dude's attitude.
That was absolutely the right call on the cops part. If someone wants to escalate over a cop turning on a smartphone camera, then I think it’s safe to say they have something to hide.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:18 pm to TheMidasTouch
What douche nozzle cop films an encounter with a cell phone? Why isn't he using a cop cam?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:44 pm to rondo
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I don't get into skirmishes.
I think you are missing the point. Sometimes trouble finds you. Sometimes youre in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:53 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Uh yeah you dumb frick, we absolutely want our law enforcement spending their time checking on people who someone has reported as acting suspiciously.
Suspiciously as per the caller. It should be up to the officer to decide if the alleged suspicious person is actually suspicious. When the information is that he was "suspicious" for nothing more than having his hands in his pockets then the officer shouldnt be wasting his time with even getting out of his car.
This was obvious fishing by the officer. They hope people are stupid enough to give the officer consent which many people do and so the cycle continues.
Dumb frick.
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What the frick good does "see something, say something" do if the the cops just say "what a stupid complaint" and don't follow up?
Because "this guy is walking down a busy street in the cold with his hands in his pockets" is not a legitimate use of police resources. If the call was, "Its midnight on a dimly lit street in summer and theres this guy in full black with a hoodie over his head and hes peeking into windows" suspicious, then an officer should respond.
Dumb frick.
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This is just bitching about nothing by a bunch of pussies like yourself.
Sonic.
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Big deal the guy talked to the cop for a few moments and went on about his day
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:09 pm to vodkacop
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Of course you would have
Yes. I would have. Not everybody is a pussy like you.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:27 pm to LSUERDOC
This is a primo internet video. Super controversial topic, and nowhere near the info needed to know what happened - so we can all dig our heels in with our own preconceived notions and disregard reality for our own political stances.
The operator needs to establish what suspicious behavior actually is. The officer should observe a bit from afar befor engaging to make sure the suspects behavior rises to a reasonable level. If he was simply walking with hands in pockets and nothing else I totally get his anger. Likewise, acknowledge it’s not the best spot to crank up the tension and intensity. Who knows if the officer did see more though?
The operator needs to establish what suspicious behavior actually is. The officer should observe a bit from afar befor engaging to make sure the suspects behavior rises to a reasonable level. If he was simply walking with hands in pockets and nothing else I totally get his anger. Likewise, acknowledge it’s not the best spot to crank up the tension and intensity. Who knows if the officer did see more though?
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:30 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Irrelevant WHY the police were called, once called they are obligated to respond.
What’s your address, and a brief description of your appearance? How many times would the police be obligated to respond if we started randomly reporting you? Or would you expect them to exercise some level of judgement?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:51 pm to TheMidasTouch
That's why they make gloves
Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:12 am to NoSaint
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This is a primo internet video. Super controversial topic, and nowhere near the info needed to know what happened - so we can all dig our heels in with our own preconceived notions and disregard reality for our own political stances.
The operator needs to establish what suspicious behavior actually is. The officer should observe a bit from afar befor engaging to make sure the suspects behavior rises to a reasonable level. If he was simply walking with hands in pockets and nothing else I totally get his anger. Likewise, acknowledge it’s not the best spot to crank up the tension and intensity. Who knows if the officer did see more though?
Perfect assessment. I concur.
Ill add. The problem is the role that LE officers see themselves in today. I knew when proactive policing gained traction that there was going to be some nasty blowback. While it does increase arrests it also creates massive resentment from the public and a general disdain of LE. This undermines LE and the law in general and part of the reason you see so many flaunt officers.
Proactive policing and "stop and frisk" has killed the image of officer friendly. I would love to be able to teach my kids that if they are law abiding that the law, the courts and the the police are on their side. Instead, Im finding myself collecting bits of legislation and precedent court cases to compile a lesson plan to teach them how to protect themselves against the law, courts and the police.
Sad, really.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:40 pm to nola000
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Perfect assessment. I concur.
Ill add. The problem is the role that LE officers see themselves in today. I knew when proactive policing gained traction that there was going to be some nasty blowback. While it does increase arrests it also creates massive resentment from the public and a general disdain of LE. This undermines LE and the law in general and part of the reason you see so many flaunt officers.
Proactive policing and "stop and frisk" has killed the image of officer friendly. I would love to be able to teach my kids that if they are law abiding that the law, the courts and the the police are on their side. Instead, Im finding myself collecting bits of legislation and precedent court cases to compile a lesson plan to teach them how to protect themselves against the law, courts and the police.
Sad, really.
Solid post. I agree...
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