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re: Cop shoots drunk disorderly fireman who should have complied

Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:16 pm to
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This is basically the TM case on video.


Someone needs to call Al Sharpton. He must have missed this one.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:17 pm to
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you saying you have to be able to physically restrain every single person in the world in 1 on 1 comabt in order to be a cop?


I'm saying you shouldn't be getting your arse kicked by the town drunk. You should be be able to restrain him without killing him.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:19 pm to
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Someone needs to call Al Sharpton. He must have missed this one.


I doubt Al gives any fricks
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:20 pm to
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I'm saying you shouldn't be getting your arse kicked by the town drunk. You should be be able to restrain him without killing him.


No shite. If the town drunk does happen to overpower you, just hand him your pistol and let him kill you. Derp.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:20 pm to
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I'm saying you shouldn't be getting your arse kicked by the town drunk. You should be be able to restrain him without killing him.



They guy was bashing the cops head, so I understand the shooting. I think it's justified. Probably shouldn't have gotten to that point though.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:20 pm to
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I said it escalated the resistance into a full fledged fight.


I don't believe he was attempting to throw a knee to the head. I could be wrong but it looked like he was trying to gain arm control and threw his knee around the subjects head. He probably would have been better off if he would have delivered a few hard knees.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:22 pm to
That moose got what he deserved too
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Probably shouldn't have gotten to that point though.


Your credibility is eroding quickly.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11478 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:22 pm to
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They guy was bashing the cops head, so I understand the shooting. I think it's justified. Probably shouldn't have gotten to that point though.


I agree it is a justified killing, however I do find it concerning that the cop was unable to defend himself without killing the guy.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:24 pm to
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No was getting the shite beaten out of him because he couldn't defend himself. Which resulted in him shooting the guy. If he was able to defend himself he wouldn't have needed to shoot the guy.
So according to you, the worlds only cop should be the heavyweight boxing champ of the world and that is it. Because he is the only person that can truly defend himself 1 on 1 vs everyone. Going to be interesting with only 1 cop in the world
Posted by DanTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:25 pm to
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So according to you, the worlds only cop should be the heavyweight boxing champ of the world and that is it. Because he is the only person that can truly defend himself 1 on 1 vs everyone. Going to be interesting with only 1 cop in the world


Many on this board would be all for having one cop in the world...for about 10 minutes.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:26 pm to
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, the worlds only cop should be the heavyweight boxing champ of the world and that is it. Because he is the only person that can truly defend himself 1 on 1 vs everyone


for $40k a year.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107804 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:28 pm to
I mean good God, i was bashing the hell out of the cops in the 5 vs 1 thread because that was wrong. But if i am going to be objective this cop here did nothing wrong, and to be honest looked like he really didnt want it to escalate at all when he is pleading for the civilian to help him. We are learning who the hacks are in this thread
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Probably shouldn't have gotten to that point though.

Do you blame the cop for that?
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11478 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Do you blame the cop for that?


He shares some of the blame. He should be able to handle drunks without killing them.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:33 pm to
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So if a guy can beat up a cop then he can do whatever he wants?
Again we are not talking about the heavyweight champion of the world. A cop should be able to defend himself against an off duty fireman long enough for backup to come.
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:34 pm to
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He shares some of the blame. He should be able to handle drunks without killing them.

Like every drunk is equal? You serious?

Just wondering, have you ever tried to subdue and handcuff an intoxicated felon alone?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107804 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:34 pm to
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He shares some of the blame. He should be able to handle drunks without killing them.
I was on your side yesterday but you are being completely unrealistic. There is absolutely no feasable way to make this possible. This cop seemed to be in good shape, and he was using his training to try and subdue the individual. He just happened to ,run into someone bigger and stronger. It happens, there is no way to prevent this
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:35 pm to
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for $40k a year.


You could double that here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:37 pm to
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I agree it is a justified killing, however I do find it concerning that the cop was unable to defend himself without killing the guy.



Maybe some depts should look at policy. Any resistance, hold off for backup. It's not hard to know who the guy is, he's not going far.
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