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re: Cop shoots drunk disorderly fireman who should have complied

Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:47 am to
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:47 am to
Said the cop was going in and out of consciousness and I think they said he was unconscious when medical arrived

Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:49 am to
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Said the cop was going in and out of consciousness and I think they said he was unconscious when medical arrived
He was getting pummeled in the face at the end and his head was bouncing off the concrete. In this situation the cop did everything he could do. Hell, he even pleaded for help from bystanders
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:49 am to
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Maybe Im different but I dont think shooting the guy was necessary
just thinking out loud here but maybe he feared the fireman could've taken his gun and used it on him
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:50 am to
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Maybe Im different but I dont think shooting the guy was necessary
The guy was on top of him beating his face and head into the concrete. The cop was left with no choice
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:50 am to
Look I'm all about frick the police but the cop was within his rights and the people filming should be charged with obstruction of justice. They distracted the cop allowing the drunk to gain position.
Posted by Slinky
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:51 am to
That article is missing important information.

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Detectives interviewed witnesses, studied two cellphone videos shot by bystanders and obtained surveillance videos from area businesses. They also took photos of a taxicab driver allegedly assaulted by Bruno moments before Hubbard’s attempted arrest of Bruno devolved into a fatal struggle.


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They wanted the cabdriver to take Anthony Bruno’s cousin home, but an argument began on how much that would cost — the meter kept running as they discussed it — and whether the cabdriver could leave the cousin on the street instead of taking him home.

Stephanie Bruno told police the cabdriver kept increasing the fare, used a derogatory word toward her and threw money back in her face.


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“That’s when my husband got out of the taxi and began hitting the taxicab driver,” Stephanie Bruno told police.

She yelled at her husband to stop, she said. He quit and walked away. She stayed with Anthony’s cousin, as three men were approaching the taxi to protect the driver. The three men nearly started another fight, she said.


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“Throughout my entire contact with the suspect, I gave him numerous verbal commands to give me his hands and to stop resisting,” Hubbard told detectives later. “In my attempts to place handcuffs on the suspect, he continued to resist and we eventually went to the ground.”

At one point, Hubbard put Bruno in a neck restraint and thought Bruno had given up. But then Bruno began resisting again, trying to stand while holding onto Hubbard.


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“I don’t know how many times he struck me, but I started to black out and saw lines across my eyes. He continued to strike me and I started to lose consciousness and I believed the suspect was not going to stop hitting me until he killed me.


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“I feared for my life and I drew my weapon, fired two shots center mass."


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Posted by Choirboy
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:51 am to
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In this situation the cop did everything he could do. Hell, he even pleaded for help from bystanders


No doubt he was justified killing the guy. Actions have circumstances
Posted by GaryMyMan
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:51 am to
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Dude, the cop has absolutely no blame in this situation. None. He did not result to kneeing the drunk in the head until he had no other choice.

I don't blame him at all, I just think his technique for getting the guy cuffed sucked. But that's really easy to say from my computer, that firefighter was a handful.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:51 am to
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The guy was on top of him beating his face and head into the concrete. The cop was left with no choice

yeah. good thing the fireman was white. we won't have a national crisis on this one
Posted by tankyank13
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:51 am to
If my friend is being beaten like that by a another man can I run up and use deadly force?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:52 am to
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Look I'm all about frick the police but the cop was within his rights and the people filming should be charged with obstruction of justice. They distracted the cop allowing the drunk to gain position.
Exactly how i feel. I bashed the 5 cops in the other thread, but this officer did everything he could possibly do. Hell, he probably should have been more aggressive from the beginning actually
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104859 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:52 am to
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If my friend is being beaten like that by a another man can I run up and use deadly force?
What? If you are on the ground an another man is beating your face and head into the concrete, then hell yes you can use deadly force. Was the officer supposed to let the drunk murder him?
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:53 am to
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If my friend is being beaten like that by a another man can I run up and use deadly force?
i'm not that learned in the laws regarding this but I would tend to think so
Posted by MrBiriwa
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:54 am to








Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104859 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:54 am to
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i'm not that learned in the laws regarding this but I would tend to think so
Why does the friend theory matter? The cops friend didnt shoot the guy, the actual cop that was on his back getting bashed shot him. Clear cut self defense
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:55 am to
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If my friend is being beaten like that by a another man can I run up and use deadly force?

In most (probably all) states, yes. Assuming the prosecutor or jury believe that you were reasonable in your belief that such force was necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 10:00 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104859 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:55 am to
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n most (maybe all) states, yes. Assuming the prosecutor or jury believe that you were reasonable in your belief that such force was necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.
Why are we talking about the friend angle? It has zero pertinence here.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:56 am to
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Why does the friend theory matter? The cops friend didnt shoot the guy, the actual cop that was on his back getting bashed shot him. Clear cut self defense
I was just responding to his question.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:57 am to
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Why are we talking about the friend angle? It has zero pertinence here.

I was just answering the question that was asked.

It is like talking about softball players winning the mlb home-run derby in a thread about something very different.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104859 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:58 am to
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I was just answering the question that was asked.

It is like talking about softball players winning the mlb home-run derby in a thread about something very different.

Touche' my friend, touche'
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