re: Cool old pictures - more pics throughout thread

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I don't think so. The last thing they heard was throttle up, then boom.

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The astronauts may not have not known, but NASA had been warned launching in cold weather was dangerous.

Yup, from NPR article

E.T. Phone home

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But you go ahead believing there was a US Government conspiracy.

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Many government conspiracies have been shown to be true in hindsight.

I'm not claiming there was a huge plot. I don't know. I am confident we don't know anything close to the truth. I mean, if you don't believe the government is involved in conspiracies, you've got your head stuck in the sand. It's open knowledge. There are wikipedia articles for Christ's sake.

A female fisherman with 2 tarpons caught off Florida, US in 1891.


A Russian man confronts a guard after the liberation of the Buchenwald concentration camp in Thuringia, Germany in 1945.


A damaged US B-17 Bomber after a mission over Cologne, Germany in 1944.


Jewish refugees, mostly children, in camps in Israel after leaving their homes in Yemen to join the Jewish state in 1954.


A video conference in Sweden in 1960.


Men pose in front of a helicopter in East Tilbury, England in 1955.


Russian soldiers in Leningrad in 1944.

You do realize wikipedia articles are sourced from other actual articles right? Or would that challenge your beliefs too much?

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What I find interesting is the B25 bomber. And yet somehow 9/11 brought down 5 buildings.

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The B-25 had nowhere near the velocity and mass of the planes hitting the WTC. The Empire State Building was better engineered than the buildings that fell on 9/11.

I have a 1987 Big Red just like that. Cranks right up.

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MYTH 2: CHALLENGER CREW DIED INSTANTLY The seven-astronaut crew for the space shuttle Challenger's fatal mission smile for the cameras as they leave for the launch pad 25 years ago, on January 27, 1986. Another myth—popular perhaps because it is, in a way, comforting—is that Challenger's seven astronauts died instantly when the shuttle "exploded."

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But the shuttle crew was not blown up, nor did they die when the shuttle broke apart. Although the exact cause of death is unknown, many experts now think the astronauts were alive until the crew cabin hit the Atlantic Ocean at more than 321 kilometres an hour. "They were still strapped in their seats when they were found," the National Air and Space Museum's Neal said. What's less clear is whether the astronauts were conscious during their final moments. A NASA medical report concluded that "it is possible, but not certain, that the crew lost consciousness due to an in-flight loss of crew module pressure."

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Nat Goe article