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Contractor Question about who should pay/fix problem.

Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:19 pm
I needed some sheetrock work down in a bathroom so we hired a mud/rock guy we have used before.

Got quoted for the job which included the bathroom.


Bathroom job looked really good, so while I was doing electrical I asked the worker if he did tile; he did. So I hired him for another job directly.

The guy I actually hired originally did the downstairs popcorn removal and patch work, I paid him so far 66% of payment.
The bathroom walls were done and I approved them. The remaining 1/3 is the ceiling.

The issue is, the downstairs room which was supposed to be just a simple patch and removal then re-texture has gone bad. They have tried to re-do it five times.
The main guy hasn't lifted a finger here in a week. The helper is now doing my tile work. The small patch job has turned into a room with glops of mud dropping from the ceiling.

The ceiling is not done.
The tile guy offered to do it "right"for $500, but he wants to demo and replace all the rock (we buy the rock).

I'm hesitant because he worked on ceiling and should have told me if it needed longer to dry or was too humid. I could have corrected that. Am I wrong to not want to pay him more to do the work?


Original guy just decided to wipe his hands of it and not take last payment. He still owes laborer from job, but needs money from me to pay him, but I won't pay as it's not done.
His former laborer doing another job and wants to re-bid the small part of the original job(ceiling repair) for 90% of the total original job costs.


I'm thinking of getting quotes from other people tomorrow while he is still doing another job and wanted to know if that were a bad idea.




TL;DR

Hired contractor to do mud work/ sheetrock install
Asked if also could fix ceiling.

His laborer did bathroom he did ceiling.

Bathroom really nice, ceiling is shite.

I hired laborer directly to do a side job.

Laborer now wants the ceiling job, but want us to pay to install an entire new ceiling.

Laborer was the one who put texture on ceiling and tried to repair the pieces that fell off.

Initial problem was too much water used to remove popcorn.





Price is good, it's just the principle.

I have two separate laborers working here all day 9-6, thinking of passing both and bringing in a third to finish rock. Is this a bad thing to do?

This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37905 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:47 pm to
If you've got the money, and the guy is actually competent and can fix it, then pay it.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Price is good, it's just the principle.

I understand the want to whup arse but getting the job finished and out of your hair is worth a bunch too.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17202 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:54 pm to
Is said contractor a man but has the first name of a girl that starts with the letter a?
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68242 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
Man, you really did a horrible job of explaining what happened.

Everyone, skip to TLDR to save yourself some confusion
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23348 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
You don't need water to remove popcorn, whoever did this.....
quote:

Initial problem was too much water used to remove popcorn.
.... needs to fix the problem.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:59 pm to
How to remove popcorn ceiling.

quote:

Spray the Ceiling. Fill a spray bottle with warm water, then spray one small section (10 square feet) of ceiling at a time. Let it sit for about 20 minutes. Don't over saturate the popcorn coating, as it could damage the underlying drywall surface.



LINK

This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11924 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

You don't need water to remove popcorn, whoever did this.....


It makes it much easier and reduces dust. Just a light spray from a pump up sprayer.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74883 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:06 pm to
When you go from explaining something verbally to written, it's so easy to go long. I tried to make it short. then a tldr for even shorter.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11221 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:08 pm to
I just removed the popcorn from my entire house. A little water from the sprayer. Was pretty easy.
Spray heavier in the closets and edges, where the popcorn is more prominent.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109165 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Man, you really did a horrible job of explaining what happened.





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Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:09 pm to
It is much better to hang 1/4" Sheetrock directly over popcorn ceiling than remove it.

What laborer works 9 to 5?

Pay the other guy to finish and be done with it. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179901 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:10 pm to
no idea what your OP is about but i got a ge refrigerator that ain't spitting out water anymore through filter, ice maker still working.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74883 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

What laborer works 9 to 5?
was saying a full day. Usually one starts at 8 the other 9. One leaves at 6 or 7 the other stays as late as 10.

One is hourly one is by the job.

1/4 costs more than 3/8, always bothered me.

I'll probably demo and re-rock after work and then have someone mud. I like demo.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179901 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:14 pm to
the way you keep saying the word rock is getting me all hot and bothered.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74883 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:18 pm to
pull out the crisper drawer and see if there is ice in your reservoir.

It could be clogged. A common problem is the line freezes at that point where it's in the freezer door.

They sell a syringe with a 1/8" plastic line that you use to clear this out.

Assuming you can hear the faint hum in the back of the fridge when you request water from the dispenser. If you don't hear the hum, it's a bad solenoid.

Even though you have an icemaker your fridge has 2-3 solenoids. One for icemaker, one for water dispenser (sometimes one for both before filter, so your filter isn't under constant line pressure. )

It's a very faint noise.


Lastly, and least common, the micro switch in the dispenser failed and it's not requesting water as it cannot complete the circuit.



Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179901 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:21 pm to
its been a problem for several weeks now where water would come off and on, real low pressure, back to normal... then randomly none at all. There has been that vibrating racket noise we heard in back once or twice. Now its like nothing coming out. I read about some part that goes from the back of refrigerator where filter is, is that one of the solenoids you speak of?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74883 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:26 pm to
oh, pressure issues with vibrating noises?

A lot of times that is the valve failing that supplies the water to the fridge.

Ran into that problem yesterday, made a horrible racket. I changed the supply valve and it took care of the issue.
Was letting air in near the handle. Odd issue.

Posted by tigerzballzdeep
Tampa, FL
Member since Jun 2007
3105 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:48 pm to
You may just need to replace the ice maker. More than likely, the cheap arse plastic wheel that rotates the ice out of the tray after hardening has cracked. I only know this because it happened to mine a few weeks ago. Solenoids were good.
Take the screws out that hold it up and unplug the harness. Then inspect the ice maker for cracks.
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