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re: Commercial construction guys - steel pricing question
Posted on 4/28/22 at 7:22 am to VABuckeye
Posted on 4/28/22 at 7:22 am to VABuckeye
I primarily work with glass and aluminum, but we use some steel.
This is a recent letter from one of my suppliers:
So, according to this one supplier, prices have somewhat stabilized vs. the last couple years. They're still high as hell, but holding steadier.
That said, we still continue to put price escalation clauses in all of our contracts for both materials and labor. We've lost a few bids because of those clauses, but I'm not sad about it. I'm not going to do a job just to lose 15% because prices changed between the bid date and the when the contractor was ready for my portion of the job.
This is a recent letter from one of my suppliers:
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As we communicated in our letter dated February 15th, we no longer plan to send monthly price change updates because of stabilization in pricing on steel and don’t anticipate a need implement a monthly change in pricing.
So, according to this one supplier, prices have somewhat stabilized vs. the last couple years. They're still high as hell, but holding steadier.
That said, we still continue to put price escalation clauses in all of our contracts for both materials and labor. We've lost a few bids because of those clauses, but I'm not sad about it. I'm not going to do a job just to lose 15% because prices changed between the bid date and the when the contractor was ready for my portion of the job.
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 7:27 am to VABuckeye
I’m on a multi billion project right now. Just to put it into perspective, we had to fight tooth and nail to get primary steel at $7,500 tn. That was back in the first quarter of this year. Can’t imagine what it is now.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 8:05 am to VABuckeye
Plate steel is over $1 per lb …
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:28 am to VABuckeye
This is what a roofer put on his quote this past month. "At this time, none of our material suppliers are issuing firm quotes on jobs but are only issuing a “price guidance”. All materials are priced by supplier at the time of shipment." I have been negotiating a 110,000 sf project for the past year. My 1st roofing quote last May was in the $500,000 range. In June it was $750,000. In November it had risen to $1,300,000 and my last update this month it was $1,500,000.
These are crazy times!
These are crazy times!
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:58 am to VABuckeye
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For a typical data center build we have 30-45 days from date of award to completion. Sometimes less. It's stressful but we've always met our date. Supply chain issues over the past couple of years have made hitting our mark even more of a challenge.
Are these usually modular solutions?
Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:44 am to kjp811
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Are these usually modular solutions?
For basket tray and fiber runner yes. It's just putting parts together. When we support the tray and fiber runner from the ceiling it's more of a custom solution for the overhead. When they're supported by cabinets it's an easier installation.
What we do is to build the customer environment inside the data center that is already built out with PDUs and CRAH units already installed by others. We install the secure environment (cage) to the customers standards. We cut the floor tiles to go under the cabinets for delivery of power and bandwidth. We then land and label the cabinets, install and certify the fiber entrance facility in the network cabinet. Of course we do the structure to support overhead cabling between cabinets and lastly we fabricate and install cold aisle containment for proper airflow through the gear.
That's it in a nutshell.
This job (if we win it) we'll only do the overhead structure as it is a very large project and the other pieces will be contracted to others.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 10:46 am
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:13 am to VABuckeye
Commercial Plumbing here.. in all our contracts we have a clause that we have to have a signed contract in 25 days of the bid or we will have to reprice everything.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:41 am to VABuckeye
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For basket tray and fiber runner yes. It's just putting parts together. When we support the tray and fiber runner from the ceiling it's more of a custom solution for the overhead. When they're supported by cabinets it's an easier installation.
What we do is to build the customer environment inside the data center that is already built out with PDUs and CRAH units already installed by others. We install the secure environment (cage) to the customers standards. We cut the floor tiles to go under the cabinets for delivery of power and bandwidth. We then land and label the cabinets, install and certify the fiber entrance facility in the network cabinet. Of course we do the structure to support overhead cabling between cabinets and lastly we fabricate and install cold aisle containment for proper airflow through the gear.
That's it in a nutshell.
This job (if we win it) we'll only do the overhead structure as it is a very large project and the other pieces will be contracted to others.
10-4. So, I'm guessing holding an inventory is not ideal. Company I used to work for was a fairly big player in the modular data center world which allowed for bulk buys to create inventory which mitigated some supply chain risks.
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