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Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:10 pm to ksayetiger
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most machines arent capable of standing up in court less than 0.01
Japan is .03. Probably not 0 because of the ability to read it. They don't frick around with DUIs. If you loan your car to someone and they get a DUI, so do you. If you're a passenger and the driver gets a DUI, so do you. Arigatou gozaimasu
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:11 pm to biglego
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If they really want to do something, just have a law that all new cars must have a breath thingy and all DUIs have mandatory jail time and license revocation.
This is what MADD wants.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:14 pm to NIH
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So, you don't have perspective.
I do. I have many friends and family that drinks. I've watched people around me get killed/have their health deteriorate from alcoholism and have had people I know killed by drunk drivers.
I don't give a frick what the limit is. Don't drink and drive. frick anyone who does.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:15 pm to AUcs13
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as an LEO we just want to impaired drivers who pose a risk to others off the road.
some of the worst offenders where I live although the last two chiefs seemed to have reeled it in somewhat, implemented a "if you are charged, you are fired" policy
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:17 pm to Loungefly85
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I'm ok this this but I think anything under a .1 should be a misdemeanor. But throw the book at anything over.
Ignoring certain basic constitutional rights (for ex: the warrant requirement for a blood sample), when you are murking the line between a misdemeanor and a felony, the state would have to implement a clear and uniform procedure of taking the BAC sample.
Given how one's BAC fluctuates with time, the blood, breath, or urine test would need to be taken at a concrete stage during the arrest. No excuses.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:18 pm to NYNolaguy1
This law makes it dangerous to go out to a restaurant and have a drink or two.
I don't even like drinking a couple beers now if I know I have to drive later due to concern about .08.
.05 if you drink at all and drive after you are risking being over the limit. Unless they change DUI laws to account for varying degrees of "over the limit" that shite is insane.
I don't even like drinking a couple beers now if I know I have to drive later due to concern about .08.
.05 if you drink at all and drive after you are risking being over the limit. Unless they change DUI laws to account for varying degrees of "over the limit" that shite is insane.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:20 pm to Lou Pai
Mate, where do you stand on this issue ?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:20 pm to rmnldr
Sounds like your opinion is based on emotion.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:21 pm to rmnldr
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I do. I have many friends and family that drinks. I've watched people around me get killed/have their health deteriorate from alcoholism and have had people I know killed by drunk drivers.
I don't give a frick what the limit is. Don't drink and drive. frick anyone who does.
While I'm sorry to hear that, this isn't about stopping people from "driving drunk."
If you don't drink, then you don't have much perspective on what BAC levels equate to in terms of impairment.
Just because someone has a .06 BAC doesn't mean they are unfit to drive.
It's asinine to tell people that they are reckless assholes because they didn't take a cab home after having two glasses of wine at dinner.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:27 pm to NYNolaguy1
nothing but a cash grab.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:29 pm to NYNolaguy1
Why .05? Because most breathilizers have a margin of error of .05.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:36 pm to NIH
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Do you uber home every time you have a drink at dinner? Do you uber to the store after having a beer?
I don't agree with lowering the BAC, in fact I think it should be higher, but most DUIs (at least here in Louisiana) aren't happening at these times. You really shouldn't be all that worried about driving home from dinner.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:40 pm to NIH
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Sounds like your opinion is based on emotion
Emotion is what made me think more and care more about it. People should be punished for operating a vehicle with alcohol or any other disorienting/disabling substance in their body. It's just how I see things and I believe it would be beneficial to us as a society if laws and sentencing were stricter about it.
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While I'm sorry to hear that, this isn't about stopping people from "driving drunk."
If you don't drink, then you don't have much perspective on what BAC levels equate to in terms of impairment.
Just because someone has a .06 BAC doesn't mean they are unfit to drive.
It's asinine to tell people that they are reckless assholes because they didn't take a cab home after having two glasses of wine at dinner.
Everyone's body reacts differently. You can't look at the entirety of the society and say that everyone is able to do something the same. Some people become impaired after one beer or one glass of wine. And on that fact alone, the law has to be in place to punish those people and the society as whole because of the circumstance. Just don't drink and drive. It doesn't matter what you can tolerate. It doesn't matter what you think you can do after a beer or a glass of wine. Don't overestimate yourself and just play it safe for the sake of yourself and the people around you.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:44 pm to rmnldr
Society would also be better if chips and soda were banned. Should congress take that up?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:46 pm to NIH
Do chips and soda impair people enough to run over my friend's mom as she's walking down the road?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:48 pm to rmnldr
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Everyone's body reacts differently.
Correct, that's why there's such a thing as personal responsibility.
I can drive home perfectly fine after sharing a bottle of wine at dinner. I know this and I take responsibility for that decision.
ETA: I'm also responsible enough to take an uber when necessary. Personal accountability and all that.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:49 pm to SaintBrees
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I don't agree with lowering the BAC, in fact I think it should be higher, but most DUIs (at least here in Louisiana) aren't happening at these times. You really shouldn't be all that worried about driving home from dinner
In theory, I agree.
But also, in theory, now police have an excuse to ask anyone they pull over for some minor traffic violation to blow. At 7:30pm on a Friday, it would be like shooting fish in a barrel as people drive home from dinner/drinks after work.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:51 pm to LSUBoo
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I can drive home perfectly fine after sharing a bottle of wine at dinner. I know this and I take responsibility for that decision.
And if someone thinks they can, and turns out they can't, and hits my daughters best friend and kills her, who takes personal responsibility for that? Will it make her less dead?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:51 pm to CJM
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Not sure what it's like in Louisiana but you can be charged with a DUI in FL for a .05 as well if the officer believes your normal faculties are impaired fwiw
We do have a "general impairment" charge, or whatever it is called, but I'd wager that any competent attorney could get that thrown out.
We also have the same thing for speeding - if the officer believes that you were going faster than the conditions would safely permit, then he can give you a speeding ticket even if you are going below the posted limit, but good luck getting that one to stick.
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