re: Colorado deputies shoot and kill man who asked for help after car crash

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The mentality that they HAVE to do something is what caused the whole thing in the first place.

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The guy admitted to smoking something. They have plenty of probable cause to conduct a field sobriety test. If they just walk away and the guy kills someone on his way home they are going to be partially responsible.

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The Colorado State Trooper said they had zero reason to do anything with the guy.

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The State Trooper asked if he had committed any crimes. I'm not sure exactly who he was talking to, but in the body cam video the first officer on the scene asks him if he's had anything to drink or on any drugs and he admits to smoking (doesnt say what).

Now, none of this means that they went about it the right way, but IMO they had to get him out of the car and they could not have just left the scene.

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And if the mentally unstable man gets out of the car with his knives, the social workers would protect themselves how?

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Nobody is saying that there should be no LEO there, either.

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The problem is they have to get him out eventually.

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No they don't.

I don't even think the LEO had to engage him at all and could have just left. Once they escalated the situation into one where he was reported to be dangerous, they had to stay. That wasn't a required or necessary outcome.

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This sure is an odd story but it definitely seems like the cops should have been able to resolve that situation without using deadly force.

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Officers definitely failed here, but this kid was failed long before that night. His parents/gaurdians are fricking dumbasses. Teach your kids to obey simple arse commands from police. Did he seriously think that calling the police to help him get unstuck would never require him to get out of the vehicle. Cops don't push or pull people out. This shite would have been done and over with in 5 minutes if he just got out of the vehicle in the beginning. Whoever taught him, or however he learned, that being scared and staying in his locked vehicle was the best response, is to blame for this. Then to further escalate it by picking up a knife, wtf. The officer that shot should be charged with murder or whatever, but the lawsuit against the police should be dismissed. The poor training in this situation was the training the kid had with how to interact with police.

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Because they can't let him drive home. He is visibly impaired and admitting to smoking something.

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From the article:

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A supervisor at the Colorado State Patrol, at one point, radioed in that Glass hadn’t committed any crimes.

“Can you ask Clear Creek what their plan is? If there is no crime and he’s not suicidal or homicidal or a great danger, then there’s no reason to contact him,” a CSP sergeant says over the radio. “Is there a medical issue we’re not aware of?”

“No,” a patrol trooper responded back.

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“I’m in a 2007 Honda Pilot. I will not be fine on my own,” he told an operator. “You’re sending someone right? You tracked my location? My car is stuck under a bush … I love you. You’re my light right now. I’m really scared. I’m sorry.”

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He should have called towing and not 911. Why is an "amateur geologist" afraid to step outside the car, even before cops arrive?

The dispatcher is usually the source of the LE response mission.
It's not rocket science to come to the conclusion that not everyone has the benefit and privilege of higher education, or class. Police dispatchers start their careers at $24.00 per hour, on average. Perhaps they had never heard the word geology, or didn't know how to spell it.
I know of instances where federal officers could not even speak and write plain English, but got the job due to blind racial solidarity.

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Postmaster General Albert S. Burleson, a Texan, proposed segregating the races to eliminate the supposed problem. Secretary of the Treasury William Gibbs McAdoo supported him.
Some departments adopted the policy with a vengeance. Burleson immediately set out on a program to segregate, downgrade and, in some cases, discharge Negro workers. All of them but one were transferred to the dead letter office, and the Negro who remained had the humiliating experience of being surrounded by screens so that white workers would not have to look at him.

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The officers on scene never communicated what this crime is.

Hopefully the audio is released because that sounds like he's summarizing the situation, ie. no crime committed, no suicide thread, and no homicide threat, so what are you doing there

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There's no justifiable reason for jumping around like apes on the dudes car, none.

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yep, showboating by some overzealous Barney Fifes that watch too many cop shows on tv, that certainly did nothing to help the situation

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Because they can't let him drive home. He is visibly impaired and admitting to smoking something.


From the article:

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A supervisor at the Colorado State Patrol, at one point, radioed in that Glass hadn’t committed any crimes.

“Can you ask Clear Creek what their plan is? If there is no crime and he’s not suicidal or homicidal or a great danger, then there’s no reason to contact him,” a CSP sergeant says over the radio. “Is there a medical issue we’re not aware of?”

“No,” a patrol trooper responded back.

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Just because they said that at some point, doesn't mean it was correct and clearly it wasn't. If he went up to someone's house rather than called police, and was acting like that, plus knowing he wrecked his car...if it was my house, I would have called the police and reported an impaired driver.