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re: Chicago mayor is appealing for calm after releasing video of Adam Toledo shooting
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:12 pm to slackster
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:12 pm to slackster
quote:Why not?
Then don’t yell to stop and put your hands up if you’re going to shoot him regardless.
You should stop and put your hands up
The officer didn’t say stop and turn to me with the gun in your hand did he?
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:13 pm to lsupride87
quote:
You should have followed the rest of the thread
Count you in as another poster with a huge L
I saw the entire long video. I don’t think the cop was out to fricking kill this kid, but he gave him instructions that were basically a death sentence under the circumstances.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:13 pm to rocket31
quote:Because simultaneous to the cop making the decision to pull the trigger the criminal makes the decision to throw the gun
but explain why the gun lands 5-6 feet from incident
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:14 pm to slackster
quote:
I saw the entire long video. I don’t think the cop was out to fricking kill this kid, but he gave him instructions that were basically a death sentence under the circumstances.
The cop never told him to turn around with a freaking gun in his hand
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:14 pm to LSUcajun77
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:14 pm to slackster
quote:What video did you watch where the cop said “hold onto the gun and turn and face me”?
saw the entire long video. I don’t think the cop was out to fricking kill this kid, but he gave him instructions that were basically a death sentence under the circumstances.
The cop said stop and put your hands up. The kid does that and he is alive
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:15 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Because simultaneous to the cop making the decision to pull the trigger the criminal makes the decision to throw the gun
the cop told him to drop the gun, and the kid apparently obliged, right? so do you see what we are getting at here?
idk im undecided i can reasonably see both sides at this point
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:15 pm to rocket31
The cop never says “turn and face me with your gun”
You do that, and your getting rightly shot 99% of the time
You do that, and your getting rightly shot 99% of the time
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:16 pm to slackster
I bet he saw him stop, his hand go forward, in his hand, as he tossed the gun his hand was obstructed and he turns around going to raise the same hand.
Boom, shot, and rightfully so. Cop saw everything in full speed, and made a judgment called from what he witnessed. Not an easy decision, but home skillet could have avoided all that. Another criminal off the street.
Boom, shot, and rightfully so. Cop saw everything in full speed, and made a judgment called from what he witnessed. Not an easy decision, but home skillet could have avoided all that. Another criminal off the street.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:17 pm to LSUcajun77
The only person with an easy decision that night was the kid with the gun
He had multiple easy decisions where he would be alive
He had multiple easy decisions where he would be alive
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:19 pm to Tigerfan56
Why isn't there one a****** reporter that goes to the families and says "So why was your f****** 13-year-old out at 2:30 a.m.?"
Was he disobedient to you and snuck out or did you guys just not care?
Were you aware of his possession of a weapon, at any point in time?
If the gun that your son had is tied to other violent crimes, would you still say your son's an innocent victim, and if so do you mind meeting with the families of the victims of your son?
Was he disobedient to you and snuck out or did you guys just not care?
Were you aware of his possession of a weapon, at any point in time?
If the gun that your son had is tied to other violent crimes, would you still say your son's an innocent victim, and if so do you mind meeting with the families of the victims of your son?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:21 pm to lsupride87
Well of course.
There are a ton of kids right now who can avoid being the next criminal, carrying a gun, not complying, shot by a cop. But that’s not the life they want.
Imagine if he would have just dropped to the ground.
You know why he didn’t? Because he had a gun and that’s another charge. Not the brightest kid.
Cop went to work, did his job and now he’s at the mercy of the interweb experts.
There are a ton of kids right now who can avoid being the next criminal, carrying a gun, not complying, shot by a cop. But that’s not the life they want.
Imagine if he would have just dropped to the ground.
You know why he didn’t? Because he had a gun and that’s another charge. Not the brightest kid.
Cop went to work, did his job and now he’s at the mercy of the interweb experts.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:22 pm to LSUcajun77
quote:
I bet he saw him stop, his hand go forward, in his hand, as he tossed the gun his hand was obstructed and he turns around going to raise the same hand.
Boom, shot, and rightfully so. Cop saw everything in full speed, and made a judgment called from what he witnessed. Not an easy decision, but home skillet could have avoided all that. Another criminal off the street.
You sound unbiased.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:23 pm to LSUcajun77
“BUT HE SAID STOP AND DROP THE GUN!”
but let’s ignore the fact the criminal turned and faced him with gun in his hand
So he should have done what the cop said. Stoped, dropped the gun, hands up. He simply once again didn’t listen
but let’s ignore the fact the criminal turned and faced him with gun in his hand
So he should have done what the cop said. Stoped, dropped the gun, hands up. He simply once again didn’t listen
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:23 pm to slackster
quote:Well you are lying saying he did what the cop told him to do. So there is that
You sound unbiased.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:24 pm to jeff5891
quote:
You guys are making a case for a cop to shoot someone just for possessing a firearm. Are you actually thinking this through?
bullshite. The case is that a cop cannot reasonably discern an armed suspect facing away gun in hand and within 8 milliseconds throwing the gun, his hands up and turning toward him, as a non-threat.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:24 pm to slackster
I mean what you think and I think are okay.
We can still have our own opinions, right?
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We can still have our own opinions, right?
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:27 pm to lsupride87
Yeah, i just saw the streamable link with the security camera angle. Came back to apologize, I see now that he wasn't as unarmed as I had initially believed. The kid didn't know any better, but pulling the gun out of his pocket put the cop in an unwinnable situation, he had to shoot. I feel sorry for the kid and pissed at the thug who pawned the gun off on him.
Again, I spoke too soon. In the words of Coach O, "put this one on me"
Again, I spoke too soon. In the words of Coach O, "put this one on me"
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:27 pm to lsupride87
It’s also noticeable this cop only fires once and then immediately tries to render aid. That’s not the actions of a cop who is just looking to “hunt brown people”
Usually all the pro-criminal crowd complain about shooting until click and not rendering aid.
Usually all the pro-criminal crowd complain about shooting until click and not rendering aid.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:28 pm to lsupride87
I’m with you.
I don’t think a cop needs to baby a criminal into listening. The law is the law. The kid knew the law, that’s why he was running and trying to ditch the gun. Too bad he stopped and had it in his hand as he turned. What the cop saw in that split second was what the cop saw. Should have stopped the first time.
I don’t think a cop needs to baby a criminal into listening. The law is the law. The kid knew the law, that’s why he was running and trying to ditch the gun. Too bad he stopped and had it in his hand as he turned. What the cop saw in that split second was what the cop saw. Should have stopped the first time.
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