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re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Utah Valley University

Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:43 pm to
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Again, I refuse to believe he didn’t know there were people out there who hate him and we have seen time and time again what people are resorting to.


I'm sure he did but most public figures are "hated" by at least a few people. Very few are shot.

I mean if you told me this morning that a right wing figure was going to be assassinated today, Charlie Kirk would have been way down my list of guesses.

And again, he was a regular person. He didn't have Seal Team 6 doing security for him.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4758 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:50 pm to
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opposing view,


Opposing to what though? All of the people that currently hold power have the same views as Kirk did. Well maybe minus Israel.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:52 pm to
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Opposing to what though?


Apparently those who will kill over political views
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:52 pm to
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A pro from that distance takes out an eyeball. They won’t miss low.


He moved at the last second.

As for the motive, it could have had nothing to do with Kirk. Hear me out. If you want a low risk way to threaten Trump, you take out someone relatively close to him who doesn't have much security. I can think of three actors with the motive and the means: Russia, Israel, China.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52722 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:52 pm to
Damn you really are out of intellectual ammo

Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4758 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:52 pm to
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Apparently those who will kill over political views


Those people run the entire gamut of ideology.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30880 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:52 pm to
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Of course it is. Everyone will remember where they were when Charlie Kirk was murdered. Just like… the Kennedy’s, MLK etc.

Obviously, this is disgusting but to compare with historical events…. You think this makes the lesson plans?

Are you saying this isn't a historical event? A prominent conservative activist getting murdered at a college speaking engagement isn't historical?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:54 pm to
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Again, I refuse to believe he didn’t know there were people out there who hate him and we have seen time and time again what people are resorting to.



A person shot him from one and a half football fields away. What non-high end politician is truly ready for those kinds of threats?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:55 pm to
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I'm sure he did but most public figures are "hated" by at least a few people. Very few are shot. I mean if you told me this morning that a right wing figure was going to be assassinated today, Charlie Kirk would have been way down my list of guesses. And again, he was a regular person. He didn't have Seal Team 6 doing security for him.


I completely agree with you. I wouldn’t wake up thinking I would be shot but hell, I might accidentally cut someone off tomorrow and take some lead. Who knows.

My main point this entire time is the president was within inches of getting assassinated. As soon as I saw that and then a second attempt I said wow, no one who agrees with anything he says should be walking around promoting it unless they are ready for some action.

That’s just me. I come from a long line of military people so maybe I’m paranoid. I’ve just always been taught to keep my head on a swivel. If it feels wrong it’s wrong trust your gut. And live outside of the spotlight and always be prepared. Always.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4758 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:55 pm to
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Damn you really are out of intellectual ammo


Jump in and give me a hand here brother.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73018 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:55 pm to
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Those people run the entire gamut of ideology.


Sure they do.

Seems to be mostly only one side actually doing the killing though.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52722 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:56 pm to
You sound like OML
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:57 pm to
Any updates on the killer?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21054 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:58 pm to
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Sure they do. Seems to be mostly only one side actually doing the killing though.


The crazy part about this is that in prison the whites who are vastly outnumbered by the Hispanics and blacks account for a considerable amount of murders inside. It’s actually mind boggling.

On the outside, complete opposite.

This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 10:59 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33988 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:58 pm to
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A while ago, probably in 2017, I appeared on Tucker Carlson's Fox show to talk about God knows what. Afterwards a name I barely knew sent me a DM on twitter and told me I did a great job. It was Charlie Kirk, and that moment of kindness began a friendship that lasted until today.

Charlie was fascinated by ideas and always willing to learn and change his mind. Like me, he was skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016. Like me, he came to see President Trump as the only figure capable of moving American politics away from the globalism that had dominated for our entire lives. When others were right, he learned from them. When he was right--as he usually was--he was generous. With Charlie, the attitude was never, "I told you so." But: "welcome."

Charlie was one of the first people I called when I thought about running for senate in early 2021. I was interested but skeptical there was a pathway. We talked through everything, from the strategy to the fundraising to the grassroots of the movement he knew so well. He introduced me to some of the people who would run my campaign and also to Donald Trump Jr. "Like his dad, he's misunderstood. He's extremely smart, and very much on our wavelength." Don took a call from me because Charlie asked him too.

Long before I ever committed (even in my mind) to running, Charlie had me speak to his donors at a TPUSA event. He walked me around the room and introduced me. He gave me honest feedback on my remarks. He had no reason to do this, no expectation that I'd go anywhere. I was polling, at that point, well below 5 percent. He did it because we were friends, and because he was a good man.

When I became the VP nominee--something Charlie advocated for both in public and private--Charlie was there for me. I was so glad to be part of the president's team, but candidly surprised by the effect it had on our family. Our kids, especially our oldest, struggled with the attention and the constant presence of the protective detail. I felt this acute sense of guilt, that I had conscripted my kids into this life without getting their permission. And Charlie was constantly calling and texting, checking on our family and offering guidance and prayers. Some of our most successful events were organized not by the campaign, but by TPUSA. He wasn't just a thinker, he was a doer, turning big ideas into bigger events with thousands of activists. And after every event, he would give me a big hug, tell me he was praying for me, and ask me what he could do. "You focus on Wisconsin," he'd tell me. "Arizona is in the bag." And it was.

Charlie genuinely believed in and loved Jesus Christ. He had a profound faith. We used to argue about Catholicism and Protestantism and who was right about minor doctrinal questions. Because he loved God, he wanted to understand him.

Someone else pointed out that Charlie died doing what he loved: discussing ideas. He would go into these hostile crowds and answer their questions. If it was a friendly crowd, and a progressive asked a question to jeers from the audience, he'd encourage his fans to calm down and let everyone speak. He exemplified a foundational virtue of our Republic: the willingness to speak openly and debate ideas.

Charlie had an uncanny ability to know when to push the envelope and when to be more conventional. I've seen people attack him for years for being wrong on this or that issue publicly, never realizing that privately he was working to broaden the scope of acceptable debate.

He was a great family man. I was talking to President Trump in the Oval Office today, and he said, "I know he was a very good friend of yours." I nodded silently, and President Trump observed that Charlie really loved his family. The president was right. Charlie was so proud of Erika and the two kids. He was so happy to be a father. And he felt such gratitude for having found a woman of God with whom he could build a family.

Charlie Kirk was a true friend. The kind of guy you could say something to and know it would always stay with him. I am on more than a few group chats with Charlie and people he introduced me to over the years. We celebrate weddings and babies, bust each other's chops, and mourn the loss of loved ones. We talk about politics and policy and sports and life. These group chats include people at the very highest level of our government. They trusted him, loved him, and knew he'd always have their backs. And because he was a true friend ,you could instinctively trust the people Charlie introduced you to. So much of the success we've had in this administration traces directly to Charlie's ability to organize and convene. He didn't just help us win in 2024, he helped us staff the entire government.

I was in a meeting in the West Wing when those group chats started lighting up with people telling Charlie they were praying for him. And that's how I learned the news that my friend had been shot. I prayed a lot over the next hour, as first good news and then bad trickled in.

God didn't answer those prayers, and that's OK. He had other plans. And now that Charlie is in heaven, I'll ask him to talk to big man directly on behalf of his family, his friends, and the country he loved so dearly.

You ran a good race, my friend.

We've got it from here
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Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52722 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:58 pm to
Explain this first and I can help you
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Opposing to what though? All of the people that currently hold power have the same views as Kirk did


Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4758 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:59 pm to
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Sure they do.

Seems to be mostly only one side actually doing the killing though.


It doesn't seem that way at all to me. I guess someone should add them all up and then we could figure out the winner.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
8168 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:59 pm to
I would say shooting public speakers through the neck may have some folks thinking it’s time to not be nice.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4758 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:00 pm to
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Explain this first and I can help you


Can't imagine a more self explanatory two sentences. Maybe you're not the man for the job.
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
15753 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 11:01 pm to
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Opposing to what though?


To culture. You people own academia, HR groups, MSM, celebrities and the culture in general.
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