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Central air not cooling in the daytime

Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:09 pm
Posted by jambrous
Member since Jun 2010
522 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:09 pm
I've had this unit for 10 years. Past few days seems like the a/c is not keeping up. Thermostat set to 72 but temp in house rises to 78. Fan runs giving the illusion of the air working but the compressor contactor not engaged. At night, no problems what so ever. I put a fresh filter today so we will see tomorrow. The air being blown from the outside unit is hot as it should be. Small Freon line warm, large one cool. Any other ideas? I'm good with electricity but not familiar with a/c.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
96292 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Any other ideas? I'm good with electricity but not familiar with a/c.


I hate to state the obvious, but - maybe call an A/C guy?

If the compressor isn't running at all, I wouldn't expect any significant cooling power at night, just circulation and I don't think you would be comfortable.

Could be a bad motor somewhere, could be a slow leak in the coolant has dropped you below effective functioning - could be a number of things.

I'm not ready to write it off, but you do need an expert, IMHO.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35975 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:16 pm to
Have you tried changing the batteries in your thermostat?

Try swapping your thermostat before calling an A/C guy.

Also, pull the covers off of your outside unit and hose it off. Gently though, those little metal fins are delicate.
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 11:20 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18975 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:16 pm to
Low on freon. I went through the same shite last year and found that I was 1.5 lbs low.
Posted by TigahRag
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Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:17 pm to
Sounds like it is your contactor
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Fan runs giving the illusion of the air working but the compressor contactor not engaged.
Are you referring to the blower on the inside? Is the fan outside running? If not, air coming inside won't be cold. Have you put a thermometer in air duct vent to check exact temp? That will tell you a lot.

May need to clean the coils on the Evaporator or condensor or both.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:19 pm to
Check the air temp. coming out of the register with a thermometer. Post it after you know temp
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
8054 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:20 pm to
Its too damn hot?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144694 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

Sounds like it is your contactor


There is your answer
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:27 pm to
did you get your garden hose out and spray the condenser unit fins free from debris?

if there is nothing there, then just call a reputable HVAC repair/installer
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:31 pm to
usually ants get in there and frick the A/C world up in the summer ..
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:32 pm to
Going out on a limb, but it's the compressor if the fans are still running
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:32 pm to
If this should lead you to replacing your system, DO NOT LET THEM HAVE YOUR OLD SYSTEM PARTS. The copper in the evaporator and condensor is worth money. You can sell them whole to scrap metal recycling companies.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

if there is nothing there, then just call a reputable HVAC repair/installer
could also spray some cleaner on the evaporator coils. It's not hard to do if you have access to it. At 10 years old you can bet dust is built up on the evaporator coils. You just spray the cleaner on it and it will wash out with the condensation.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14616 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

evaporator and condensor is worth money. You can sell them whole to scrap metal recycling companies.


Interesting. How much are we talking here? I'm likely going to have to replace my system soon.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:47 pm to
What's the contactor and how do you fix it?
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

compressor contactor not engaged


How did you verify this?
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:06 am to
After a capacitor that wasn't bad, a "freeze up" because "bad" capacitor wasn't making fan start and then "oh I just found some charring on the control board" that costs $1000 you should be cool in about a week and about $1800 lighter in the wallet
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
171193 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:14 am to
quote:

If this should lead you to replacing your system, DO NOT LET THEM HAVE YOUR OLD SYSTEM PARTS. The copper in the evaporator and condensor is worth money. You can sell them whole to scrap metal recycling companies.


it took people about 10 years to figure this out. yet, in most towns/cities because of all of the copper theft from empty homes and what not. you now not only need to show your DL but also need an HVAC license to sell scrap.
Posted by jambrous
Member since Jun 2010
522 posts
Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:23 am to
It's a wifi thermostat, no batteries. I haven't taken Temps at register. I know the fan is running outside cause I'm standing right by it when I'm trying to troubleshoot this and the inside fan is running cause there is air coming out of the registers. I know the compressor relay is not engaged cause I can see the contacts haven't been engaged. I will have to take the cover off and see if there is debris in the fins. Without taking off the cover it doesn't look dirty but maybe ants in there from all the rain we have been getting. Can't see any around the slab it sits on though. Thanks. Any idea what spray is used to clean inside coils?
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