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re: Celebrated Fat Women Lizzo Makes It Clear She Is “Not Making Music For White People”

Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:58 pm to
The next Lizzo song I hear will be the first. So she’s doing a good job at not making music for me.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:02 pm to
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When black people talk about her making music for white people, they mean she is catering her music towards white people to draw in that crowd. Her statement is her saying she just makes her own music from her life experience, whoever shows up, shows up. She isn't writing music to appeal to a certain demographic, Ala boy bands of the 90s appealing to teenage white girls, like Taylor swift does

i think i generally agree with you, for a change. however, i think what a lot of posters are probably hung up on, and i think rightfully so, is the specific verbiage of "i dont make music for white people". i think i get what she MAYBE intended to mean...but she worded it poorly because that doesnt come off sounding like "this is based on my experience, whoever shows up shows up", it reads like - stay away whitey. however, the rest of the comments, in context, read more like "hey this is music for everyone, based on my black experience (whatever that means, anyways).

all that being said, as always, if a country singer from bumfrick Georgia said "my music isnt for black people" he would be excoriated and, as usual, black people are given a pass and an obvious double standard.



Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:02 pm to
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how old are you?


Old enough to read

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she is not saying "i dont want white people to listen to my music" thats something completely different.

accusing her of making music for/aimed at white people is like calling her an uncle tom.




GTFO
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:03 pm to
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however, the rest of the comments, in context, read more like "hey this is music for everyone, based on my black experience (whatever that means, anyways).



Is there context beyond the article? Because nothing in the article comes off that way.
Posted by ReedRothchild
South MS
Member since Jul 2019
1185 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:07 pm to
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Sure, if he said he was a white man making music based on his experience as a white man. That's hard to argue with since that's who he is.


The big (D)ifference here, however, is that would be career suicide for a white musician. And you know that as well.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6585 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:08 pm to
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Because nothing in the article comes off that way.

did you miss this part?
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the singer said. “When black people see a lot of white people in the audience, they think, ‘Well, this isn’t for me. This is for them.’

she is saying she isn't making music "for white people"

its "for everyone" (except me apparently, cuz i think she sucks). it's right there


basically she wants to sell tickets/albums to white folks but still keep her street cred
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79697 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:08 pm to
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frick her.


Uh, yeah. Hard pass.

DIAMOND hard pass.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:10 pm to
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she is saying she isn't making music "for white people"



Wow really? How enlightening. I don not know.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4704 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:10 pm to
yeah i guess after going back and re-reading, it definitely doesnt seem like she is emphasizing the "for everyone" part. but i still think that the main issue with her comments is the specific line of "this isnt music for white people". maybe if she had said "this isnt music ABOUT white people" or something like that it would have come across better.

regardless, i'm not really trying to defend this fat cow. i just dont think she necessarily meant it to come off quite as harshly as it did. but hell, maybe she did. i dont know. regardless, i cant name a single one of her songs, so i'm certainly not the target anyways.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:11 pm to
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yeah i guess after going back and re-reading, it definitely doesnt seem like she is emphasizing the "for everyone" part. but i still think that the main issue with her comments is the specific line of "this isnt music for white people". maybe if she had said "this isnt music ABOUT white people" or something like that it would have come across better.



Or, she might just be a as racist as we think she is. Either way
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6585 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:12 pm to
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regardless, i'm not really trying to defend this fat cow. i just dont think she necessarily meant it to come off quite as harshly as it did. but hell, maybe she did. i dont know. regardless, i cant name a single one of her songs, so i'm certainly not the target anyways.

true that, these folks are gonna find something to bitch about every day, i guess at least today it's some fat black chick
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4704 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:12 pm to
maybe she's just hangry
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84121 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:12 pm to
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true that, these folks are gonna find something to bitch about every day, i guess at least today it's some fat black chick

Just like you'll find some nonsense racist leftist nonsense to defend daily.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:13 pm to
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maybe she's just hangry


Definitely a possibility
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6585 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:13 pm to
outrage culture really is fascinating

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maybe she's just hangry


lucky for her, McDonalds just renovated their burger (or so Ryen Russillo podcast says)
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4704 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:18 pm to
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outrage culture really is fascinating

from a conservative's standpoint, and i think i can safely say that the majority of conservatives would agree, the outrage is the obvious, continued, blatant, and egregious double standard. i dont think the vast majority of conservative white dudes that post on this board and on this thread really care if Lizzo is making music for them. it's the fact that she can say something like that with precisely zero criticism, and in most cases will actually receive praise, from the mainstream media complex.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:21 pm to
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outrage culture really is fascinating


Yep, I wish you Leftists had not made it a "thing".

You see, you dishonest twat, you want to pretend that people haven't had their lives destroyed over making much more innocent statements than the one uttered by this fat racist btch.

There have been MUCH better human beings that would have LOVED to see you Leftists moron giving the benefit of the doubt as you are in this case.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:23 pm to
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outrage culture really is fascinating


I'm glad this ebony whale you folks worship doesnt want me to hear her output.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6585 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:24 pm to
If you've had your life destroyed just come out and say it. The invisible boogeyman shite is played out.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5357 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:24 pm to
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The intelligent singer and the business woman


This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 3:25 pm
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