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re: CDC warns COVID-19 may be a few mutations away from evading vaccines

Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
50904 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:38 pm to
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unvaccinated people are absolutely contracting and dying of Covid at a much higher rate than vaccinated. These are just facts.


It’s pretty much common sense

How many 35 year olds that are of a normal weight, have no known health issues & do not smoke are dying?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47524 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:39 pm to
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Is your assertion that the majority of hospitalizations and deaths recently are not from the unvaccinated?



Again, I’ve said nothing about hospitalizations or deaths. Maybe you should try reading?
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 8:40 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:39 pm to
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We didn’t? Are you sure?


Look at the graph or post some other information.

We didn’t start vaccinating in any meaningful numbers until January.

In fact I specifically remember the dumbass democrats making a big deal about not seeing the effects of vaccines yet because it was mostly healthcare and the very elderly that were getting vaccinated.

Yet now these same people are going back to January to cite death statistics.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 8:42 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:41 pm to
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We didn’t start vaccinating until January. Then you have to wait 2 weeks between doses then it’s not effective for another 2 weeks.

So the very first vaccines weren’t even effective until February.

to confirm where I went wrong, is I should start at 2 - 4 weeks after vaccines started?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77265 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:41 pm to
Go to hell. Get a job.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:42 pm to
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Look at the graph or post some other information.
We obviously started in December. I remember it. Do I need to source it for you.

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We didn’t start vaccinating in any meaningful numbers until January.
That’s certainly true. It was a little slow going with supply through much of January. However, we were vaccinating the vulnerable in nursing homes at significant rates from the beginning.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22093 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:42 pm to
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I've changed nothing about my life other than when a mandate called for it.

Everything else I've done is no different than I've ever done, so there's that.


Gotcha. And good for you. Seriously.

But I guess I just don’t understand why you’re so hell bent on defending numbers and percentages that support everything our government is putting us through? It’s all nonsensical. It really is. There is no end in sight and it’s scary that people can’t snap out of it.

Having a vaccine should of ended this. Regardless if half the population wants to take it or not. It really is that simple.



Posted by lsucm10
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
1387 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:42 pm to
For fricks sake. It’s never gonna end is it? I’m beyond over this endless gloom and doom crap.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:43 pm to
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Again, I’ve said nothing about hospitalizations or deaths. Maybe you should try reading?
You took exception to me saying this, so yes you actually did.

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unvaccinated people are absolutely contracting and dying of Covid at a much higher rate than vaccinated
So... Do you think that is not correct?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:43 pm to
Yeah. The whole argument waaaaay back in March 2020 was “we have to keep the hospital systems from getting overwhelmed!!”

The vaccine on its own does that. There is no reason to shut anything down or implement mandates.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:44 pm to
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to confirm where I went wrong, is I should start at 2 - 4 weeks after vaccines started?


No. You aren’t comparing apples to apples. Everyone here understands but you. Go think about it a bit and get back to us.

Lsupride87 actually had a good statistic if it can be verified because he cited deaths in June only when we have a good portion of the population vaccinated and we don’t have lagging deaths from a month ago at any significant number.

Don’t forget deaths reported in January were probably from December or even November. How many were vaccinated in November?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:45 pm to
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We obviously started in December. I remember it. Do I need to source it for you.


Yea post the percentage of the population that was vaccinated at the beginning of January.

You will just prove my point.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 8:47 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:45 pm to
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defending numbers and percentages that support everything our government is putting us through?
They support getting the vaccine. Period. What governments do with the data is, unfortunately, out of my immediate control. At this point, the government should disclose the numbers of hospitalized and dead and the percentage of those unvaccinated. Everyone can make their choice and live (or not) with the consequences.
This post was edited on 7/27/21 at 8:48 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8135 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:46 pm to
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The vast majority of transmission is occurring in unvaccinated people. That's it, that's all I have to say to back up my statement.


And that’s why I don’t care and why I also give zero shits about what government’s around the world have to say, especially the fricktards in Washington.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24025 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:46 pm to
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COVID-19 may be “just a few mutations” away from being able to evade vaccines, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky warned Tuesday.
So just like the seasonal flu that has a different vaccine shot every year based on the strains that are going around. The same flu vaccines that most people don’t go get and yet society seems to do just fine without mask mandates and lockdowns
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
47030 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:47 pm to
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Paul Allen

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Go to hell.


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Get a job.

Oh put a sock in it
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:47 pm to
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But I guess I just don’t understand why you’re so hell bent on defending numbers and percentages that support everything our government is putting us through?
Certainly a fair point or fair to question.

Myself and another plate can be all for opening everything back up(I've been on record on this board for saying we never should have locked down fwiw) but that doesn't mean the reasons I believe and reasons someone else believes it or the same. It also doesn't mean that someone who agrees that we should open it up doesn't have some really bad logic or believe complete bullshite that isn't true in arriving at that conclusion.

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Having a vaccine should of ended this. Regardless if half the population wants to take it or not. It really is that simple.

Agreed
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77265 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5088 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:49 pm to
Why don’t they just let all of us in vaccinated people die off and they can live in their own utopia. I’m tired of being preached to and given information only for it to change and we move the goalposts again. I will stand for what I believe in and let the chips fall.

I have no faith that our government and the cdc have any clue what they are doing and we have been force fed information that has been inflated or massaged as needed to keep control. I have no faith that people who stand to make multi generational wealth off of this situation have any of us in their mind.

So here we are. If you are scared, then stay home. Wear your mask when you sleep and leave me the frick alone.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 8:49 pm to
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No


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you have to wait 2 weeks between doses then it’s not effective for another 2 weeks.

You can't even keep track of what you're saying right now. You contradicted yourself here.
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Don’t forget deaths reported in January were probably from December or even November. How many were vaccinated in November?

You were also wrong in your reply about when Illinois deaths were at their peak, so you got that going for you as well.
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