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re: CCTV footage shows the moment a jogger appears to push a woman in front of a London bus

Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:15 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:15 am to
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if anything she got in his path and she fell from a glancing bump not a push or shove and there was no intent at all on his part to do anything but jog in a straight line and mind his own business.

woman caused the collision from lack of awareness (because she was most likely texting) and now wants victimhood status from her own lack of attention


Is this a troll attempt gone bad? He clearly veered over to push her.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:16 am to
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Yea but that is no reason for a jogger to commit attempted murder.


DO you think he saw that bus coming with the eyes in the back of his head?

The guy is an a-hole for sure, but he didn't try to murder her based on what's been provided.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:18 am to
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Can we all give the driver an attaboy? Those were some damn fine reflexes that saved that woman's life.




no shite...and didnt hit the car in the next lane.


Dude needs a medal
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:43 am to
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total BS, the woman should have seen the guy jog right up to her and "she" (not him) veered to the right as they came together.


Bad troll attempt. He obviously veered into her.

They will end up catching this guy, too many CCTVs in the UK. They can follow him all the way back to his home.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:47 am to
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DO you think he saw that bus coming with the eyes in the back of his head?


Does it matter? He knew there was a road right there which usually has things travelling on it that could kill someone
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:49 am to
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Does it matter?


YEs, intent matters for murder.
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He knew there was a road right there which usually has things travelling on it that could kill someone



Still isn't murder.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:52 am to
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DO you think he saw that bus coming with the eyes in the back of his head?



I think if he has ears, he can hear a bus coming up behind him 5 feet to his right.

Regardless of the bus, he pushed her down toward a lane of traffic.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:54 am to
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think if he has ears, he can hear a bus coming up behind him 5 feet to his right.

Regardless of the bus, he pushed her down toward a lane of traffic.



The guy is an a-hole, I said as much. Still didn't try to murder her by bus.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:56 am to
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YEs, intent matters for murder


It sure does, and the video makes it look like he intended to knock her into the street which could very easily lead to being killed

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Still isn't murder.


Probably not, but he should have definitely been aware that what he did could pretty easily cause death
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:03 am to
Negligent homicide if she had been hit and killed ( at least in the USA)?
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 10:05 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:08 am to
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Does it matter?
Intent?

Well yes, actually
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:09 am to
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"she" (not him) veered to the right as they came together.
She really didn't.

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and there was no intent at all on his part to do anything but jog in a straight line and mind his own business.
I love that message board posters think they know someone's intent from watching a video.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:12 am to
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Intent? Well yes, actually


No shite. My response was I don't think the intent turns on him intending to knock her in front of a bus, but it turns on his intent to knock her into the road. If his intent was to knock her into oncoming traffic, to me it doesn't matter whether he knew a bus coming or not
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:18 am to
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but it turns on his intent to knock her into the road.


How do you know he meant for her to go all the way into the road?

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f his intent was to knock her into oncoming traffic, to me it doesn't matter whether he knew a bus coming or not



Again, how do you know his intent?
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19915 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:20 am to
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How do you know he meant for her to go all the way into the road?


I don't

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Again, he do you know his intent?


I don't. I just don't think it matters whether he knew a bus was coming or not. It all depends on whether he meant to push her into oncoming traffic
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:25 am to
if the bus didn't hit, you must acquit.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:28 am to
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Jack the Pusher


We have a winner !

Nice work son.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:35 am to
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Damn what a cock


that's what she said
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12722 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:57 am to
London has more cameras than any city I've ever seen. How is it possible that they don't have better video of the incident? Or at least a better shot of the runner from another location?

... or did the London coppers not give enough of a shite about it to spend the time to go through all of the footage? (This one has my vote.)
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