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re: CB&I Buyer's Remorse Lulz

Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:55 am to
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:55 am to
NYC Rapid Repair for Sandy was the FEMA Pilot for the SAH Program. It may have Louisiana's name on it but it's a FEMA-based program that's designed to ensure folks remain in their community. It incentivizes remaining where you are.

Road Home created a diaspora of New Orleanians who just evacuated, got their RH $, sold their lot to a developer and just never came back.

This isn't inside baseball for B&R IMO. This was on the horizon and the execs here knew the program from there. They're the right folks for the job if you ask me.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 7:58 am
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9261 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:57 am to
I could give a shite what you are or who you are. I was just bringing some info to the discussion and throwing that in joking around.

You are probably one of the former Shaw big timers who thinks his shite doesn't stink. Spent enough time around some of them. Professional, isn't the word I would use for your type.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:05 am to
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Damn near all of the executives that stood up the rapid repair program in New York are now at B&R. The majority of the technical staff, that worked it, have left for other firms, or are still in New York working Sandy relief projects. I really don't see how CB&I's local management and staff are any more qualified than B&R for this.


Name one FEMA project that Brown and Root has run please.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61773 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:11 am to
One note about Epic I thought I would add since this is the OT, their sales woman is smoking hot. Nice fake tits, dressed to the 9's, and is an avid hunter. The guys I know we're falling all over themselves to get to go to lunch with her and try to give them work. Cooler heads prevailed and shite their ideas down. LOL
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:12 am to
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Do you work for CB&I?



Lord no. I'm a lawyer at a firm.

The writing is on the wall that the work will go to BR. Gov. Honor Code has to repay those fundraisers and contributions. Louisiana politics at its finest. CB&I could run it, AECOM, CH2M Hill, Jacobs, Bechtel, Parsons, CDM Smith, Worley, Arcadis. shite you name it and there are more qualified contractors out there than BR.
Posted by dreww221
Member since Nov 2009
469 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:13 am to
Name one that Atkins ran before their first one. Name one that CH2M Hill ran before their first one.

Every company has their first FEMA job. They wouldn't be hiring B&R for B&R, they would be hiring B&R for the technical expertise of the staff that basically created, stood up, and ran the same program on a larger scale in New York, and because they have the bank roll to support the program.



Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Every company has their first FEMA job. They wouldn't be hiring B&R for B&R, they would be hiring B&R for the technical expertise of the staff that basically created, stood up, and ran the same program on a larger scale in New York, and because they have the bank roll to support the program.


Wait, so the entire crew that ran the CB&I program for sandy now works at BR? I find that hard to believe. And no, every company doesn't start their FEMA work by getting a fricking $1B contract. The company must show that that can execute such a contract. BR has not done so.
Posted by dreww221
Member since Nov 2009
469 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:25 am to
I'm not going to argue with you on this, as I don't have a dog in the fight and I couldn't care less who wins the contract. You seem to have a hardcore hatred for B&R.

I just know without a doubt the local B&R staff is far more qualified to run this program than the local CB&I staff.

Have a good day sir.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:26 am to
I have a have for hatred for graft and political pay to play schemes. Good day.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 8:31 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61773 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:46 am to
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I was reviewing the RFP last night......13,500 homes assessed and "repaired" by the end of Sept.


Could you help me out with how you think the program would work for this part.

I briefly read last night that they are setting it up only for houses that got less than 24 inches of water, but there would be exceptions.

I'm trying to help an elderly couple get their house fixed. It's only 1150 sf simple home and I know that for under $15K that house could get sheet rock done and simple things in place to get them ready to get back in.

I have some volunteers who would help with all other repairs and maybe sheet rock too, but if FEMA could do the sheet rock that would be a sure thing help that we could get them back into the house.

Will there be any common sense applied to this situation?
Posted by CajunCommander
FloodZone
Member since Jan 2015
1875 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:59 am to
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If I'm included in those 2, I am not a "baw"....

This discussion is for professionals.


Congrats on taking yourself way to seriously... I can only imagine how "professional" you are
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10234 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:06 am to
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They also have that huge nuclear fab shop out on Lincoln Rd in south Lake Charles.


They hiring inspectors?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:22 am to
Stay away from Houston.....
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:28 am to
its not long-term repair. It's simply getting people back in their homes in the short term versus shelters, leaving, being homeless etc.

It is exactly the Rapid Repair Program used in NYC.

If B&R get it, they do have merits regardless of any hardwiring. They are also probably not concerned with the potential blowback and how it could affect future LA business like a CH2M or Arcadis or insert engineering firm.

I've been heavily involved in large scale CDBG HUD programs but those have had more traditional timelines and deliverables......we're positioning for those later on
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:29 am to
It's who they have on board to manage it and what their professional resumes have on them.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:31 am to
Thing is you type like a grunt who only assumes what this level is about, baw.
Posted by bababooey
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
1105 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

CharlesLSU LSU Fan Member since Jan 2007 19572 posts re: CB&I Buyer's Remorse LulzPosted on 8/26/16 at 7:29 am to LSU999 If I'm included in those 2, I am not a "baw".... This discussion is for professionals.


Damn dude you are a baw.
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9261 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:17 am to
I am a grunt. I work for my money. Worked lots of hours for that business and made them lots of money. Pocket change to you I'm sure.


Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
7221 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:43 am to
No matter what firm gets the contract, it will be a cluster, 13,500 homes in a month, no fricking way.

This is Louisiana, it will drag on till the end of the year.
Posted by Geaux Piggins Geaux
Member since Aug 2015
998 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:15 am to
Well with their cash flow dismal and having to write-off selling their power division (the shaw nuclear plants) at a steep discount to Westinghouse in Dec., I'd be a pissed off investor too. Considering that they canned the last CFO in Q1 2015, Asherman can't blame the new CFO. Not to mention the guy was sure a year ago that their shares would go up to $100 by the second half of FY16, I would not have a lot of patience for promised healthy cash flows.
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