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Catalytic converter question…

Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:23 pm
Posted by br_1560
Upper Left USA, from Lower Right
Member since Oct 2022
65 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:23 pm
CEL came on last week, and the manual code check didn’t show anything. Took it by Auto Zone and their scanner shows it to be the catalytic converter. I haven’t experienced any abnormal performance issues, and the only thing that has changed is the CEL.

113k miles on the vehicle, which I’ve read is about when the CC usually goes out? I’m basically asking if there are any other ways to check to see if it is actually the CC before I have to drop $1500 on replacement when it seems like there’s nothing wrong.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54639 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:42 pm to
Dumb, but appropriate question, but are you sure the catalytic converter is still there?
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 11:44 pm
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:53 pm to
Good question if op lives on Wire Rd in Auburn.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:56 pm to
To address your question...sensor before and after Cat can make the cel come on but that doesn't mean your Cat failed. Emissions test is the only way to show that. Take it to a mechanic.

Also a scanner is only 20- 40 bucks to read your own codes. BTW what was the code they said yours had?
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5964 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:25 am to
On a car with that milage running well....

You Tube has dozens of "How to Clean Your Catalytic Convertor" videos.

Auto Zone sells cat cleaners ask them which they like.

If all that fails, lacquer thinner can work but be careful you don't blow out your O2 sensors. Instructions on You Tube in several videos..

Just a little research and twenty bucks might save you $1,500.

Good luck.

Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9760 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:41 am to
Go to an Autozone and pick up a bottle of Cataclean.

I had the P0420 code on my car so I went bought some Cataclean and it worked great. The instructions tell you to drive around for a little while after applying it, so I did and it sounded like gravel was falling from the bottom of my car as I was driving. Cleaned out the CC pretty good.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17594 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:49 am to
Are you sure it's the cat and not the o2 sensors? I would double check just to be sure before dropping that much. I would take it to a shop. I wouldn't put too much stock in what auto zone says.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3828 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:13 am to
quote:

I’m basically asking if there are any other ways to check to see if it is actually the CC before I have to drop $1500 on replacement


Flow test by a muffler shop
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5566 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:54 am to
Get a new 02 sensor, and a gas cap. Run a tank of super unleaded through it.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8108 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 6:29 am to
For GM vehicles (Chev Equinox & GMC Terrain is what we've seen the most) with catalytic converter codes I recommend using BG 44K that you can purchase from Amazon. We used this many times and I can only think of 3 vehicles where this didn't work...and that was due to the system being totally blocked and all exhaust being pushed back thru to the engine. So if you try this early on and before you reach the point of total restriction you should have no more issues for a while. Then I would add a can every 20-25k miles at fill-up.

Pour (2 cans) of it in your fuel tank and then fill up. This stuff really helps burn off carbon build-up on internal valves/pistons; fuel injectors and burns the carbon build-up in exhaust(Cats). The longer the product remains in your fuel system, the better.

Some vehicles may exhibit a rough idle (depending on mileage) after mixing however it has not affected performance (acceleration) under load. The "rough idle" is an indicator that its doing the job of dissolving the carbon and cleaning the fuel delivery and exhaust system.

BG 43K via Amazon






Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:00 am to
What's your P-code?

You can check temperature immediately before and after the catalytic. Should only be about 100F (40c) difference. Greater than that could indicate clogged catalytic.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 7:30 am
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27471 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:01 am to
Buy a bluetooth scanner.

Download torque pro.

Fill up with gas and a can of berrymans Chem tool fuel additive.

Set torque pro to watch O2 sensor temp.

Drive really hard, keeping rpms high, downshift if you need to. Watch the temps. Get them above 1200 degrees and keep them there.

You'll be able to burn off a large amount of the contaminants. I do it for an entire tank of fuel leading up to emissions testing. And then refill and continue to run hard until tested.

Carbon burns off between 1200 and 1400 degrees. Unlikely you can get to 1400 consistently.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6561 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:26 am to
Jack the vehicle up and place on jack stands.

Crank the vehicle and let it run for about 10 minutes to warm up completely. After warming up, get under the vehicle with it still running and with infrared thermometer ,(you can get them cheap at HF) point the laser about two inches before the cat on the exhaust pipe. Jot down the temp.

Then put it about 2 inches past the cat on the exhaust pipe and record the temp there. It should be about 100 to 110 degrees hotter than the inlet temp before the cat if it is working correctly.

It is highly unlikely the cat is bad unless it has been smashed by driving over something. Generally what causes a cat to go out is either physical damage or an engine issue such as running to too rich, lots of blow by, etc, thus clogging the cat.

I would purchase a cheap ODB2 scanner if I were you and see if the codes come up mentioning sensors, odds are the O2 sensors either before or after the cat need replacing.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 8:29 am
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