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re: Can you be convicted of a DUI and blow under the legal limit?

Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:06 am to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:06 am to
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Admittedly your friend blew a .94. It's only reasonable that he is now dead


FIFY
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24064 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:08 am to
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Blunts are trashy anyway.





Everyone knows gentlemen smoke out of a sherlock.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:11 am to
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You can receive a DWI for anything over .04 if you are observed crossing center line, in an accident etc. If swerving in your own lane, and never actually commit an offense, then .08 and over. Anything under is just probable cause and can't be proved.
Want to show your work?
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:12 am to
Happened to my wife a few years ago. Met me downtown for dinner, got pulled over for "improper lane usage" on the way home. She was confidant she was under the limit so she blew. She blew a .03 and the arrested her anyway.

Caused a major shite show especially considering she had quite literally just graduated fro vet school a week prior.

Never talk to police. Never blow. They are not your friend.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
21706 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:14 am to
If it is a bench trial it is at the judge's discretion whether to convict or not.
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:19 am to
If you blow anything other than zeros on a breathalyzer you can be charged with a DUI because you are driving under the influence of something. Sounds like your friend is just an all around piece of shite. Your friend could get charged with both a DUI and a DWI because of the joint he was smoking. However, I know your track record on this board so I doubt any of this is true anyways. You really should post a frick ton less
Posted by kilo1234
Member since May 2014
1431 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:21 am to
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Can you be convicted of a DUI and blow under the legal limit?


Yes. The "legal limit" is a one directional mechanism. DWI/DUI means you are intoxicated to the point that your driving is impaired. For some people, that could be much lower than the .08 limit. You could be impaired at .04, for instance, but the state has to prove up its case. However, once you hit the magic .08, you are considered impaired whether your behavior/etc demonstrates it.

In simple terms, the .08 "legal limit" just means that you MAY be impaired at a lower blood alcohol content, but at .08 it is ASSUMED that you ARE regardless of any other factors.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
9340 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:29 am to
I'm sure he got the DUI for driving under the influence of marijuana. He could have blown a 0.00 and still got a DUI because he was under the influence of drugs.
Posted by kook
Berrytown
Member since Sep 2013
2156 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:32 am to
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Yes. The "legal limit" is a one directional mechanism. DWI/DUI means you are intoxicated to the point that your driving is impaired. For some people, that could be much lower than the .08 limit. You could be impaired at .04, for instance, but the state has to prove up its case. However, once you hit the magic .08, you are considered impaired whether your behavior/etc demonstrates it. In simple terms, the .08 "legal limit" just means that you MAY be impaired at a lower blood alcohol content, but at .08 it is ASSUMED that you ARE regardless of any other factors.


I borrowed from Kilo. .04 is set by OSHA, same as commercial drivers.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5498 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:34 am to
So he blew over a .08 at the scene and was smoking marijuana and you think it is unreasonable to charge him with DUI?
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:34 am to
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I borrowed from Kilo. .04 is set by OSHA, same as commercial drivers.
OSHA doesn't set DUI laws. In many jurisdictions you can blow .00 and get convicted of a DUI. Also, you claimed a certain limit equaled probable cause, but could not be proven. That too is not accurate.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:34 am to
Yes. You can blow under .08 and still get convicted of DUI.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:38 am to
You can have a 0.000 (they go to thousandths) and still get one. You think they register weed as alcohol?
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:41 am to
If they have him on tape and he is appearing impaired, they got him
Posted by say when
Member since Mar 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:49 am to
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In Georgia it is officers discretion. Anything over 0.00 and if they feel like it they can take you in.


Same in Louisiana
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68245 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:56 am to
you frickin suck
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20737 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:01 am to
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A friend of mine was pulled over last week for swerving across the middle line. He was smoking a blunt and was ashing, and crossed the line for a second. Cops pulled him over and conducted a field sobriety test. Which he failed. He blew .094 on the scene. By the time they got him to the station he blew .074 on the official machine. They still charged him with a DUI. The legal limit is .08 in his state. How can they do that? I didn't think the on scene test was reliable enough for conviction.

ETA corrected numbers



You aren't arrested on whether you blow over .08 or not, you're arrested on your impairment level. Theres plenty of people that can't do field sobriety tests and are only at .05 and shouldn't be driving.

.08 only means that legally you are impaired and requires less from a law enforcement standpoint to prove you are drunk. If you blow under, its up to the officer to provide more evidence that you are/were intoxicated. Thats about the simplest way to put it.


ETA: Pretty much what PJ already said.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 10:03 am
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:12 am to
In Louisiana, having a BAC of .08 or above creates a legal presumption that you are impaired. You can still be charged and convicted with a lower BAC.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 1:10 pm to
You can blow a 0.00 and have a blood test that shows NO drugs in your system and still be charged. Here are two such cases:
LINK
LINK

However, neither of the above linked cases has anything to do with your friend. 0.9 is legally above the limit and smoking a blunt does make someone under the influence.

Sorry for your buddy but sounds like he was rightfully charged. I am sure your support will mean a lot to him though.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40357 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 1:14 pm to
He's a POS so does it really matter?

He can't drive and he clearly can't hold his alcohol.
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