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re: Can we require women to take a dishwasher loading class before marriage?

Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:07 am to
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:07 am to
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I need your technique here because this is a hot topic around these parts. She can't stand to see anything left out overnight so she'll take the pan I've left soaking in the sink 5 minutes later and dump the water out and cram it into the dishwasher.

Every single time


Tough lessons.

I just started putting the still crusty/burned casserole dishes in the cabinet and next time she'd cook she'd bitch about having to hand scrape it and re-clean it. That happened enough to where she understands the point of the soak. Like letting your kids make mistakes so they learn.

I cook more than her, by far, because I'm better at it and love it, but she uses the casserole dishes a lot more than me.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:11 am to
No two people will load the same.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:11 am to
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Also, in the Grinds my gears catalog, since when did manufacturers stop producing the powder in the box. Now all I find at Walmart are those expensive dishwasher pods. Even the Walmart brand is expensive. Give me powder.


Baw, you need to switch to this.



Too many times the powder cakes up and prevents the door from opening, leaving me with a hard ball of powder that never mixed in. I’ve never once had an issue with the liquid.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:18 am to
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we have. I actually enjoy loading it because she cooks 95% of the time and I like seeing a nearly organized dishwasher that I know is going to get the dishes clean.

Problem is I'm too "slow" at it so she races to the sink to do it first.

Not sure what the rush is, but if it’s to get to bed, maybe you take an L on the dishes and go with her.

In all seriousness, yeah this one is difficult. It doesn’t sound like a knowledge thing, sounds like she just doesn’t care…or maybe she cares more about “tidying up” than getting things clean (you mentioned her beef with soaking things in the sink).

If she’s doing all the cooking, I’d just try to convince her that you’ll handle kitchen cleaning but she has to get out. Get her input on how she wants things, but once she plates/dishes the food, that’s a wrap. Time to go. Then you take over.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11327 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:20 am to
Both dish washer loading and clean as you go are mythical witchcraft concepts to my wife.

When I cook, the first thing I do is make sure the dishwasher and sink are empty. When I'm done cooking, everything is in the dishwasher except the pot the food is in. And the counters are wiped down.

When she cooks, it looks like a BLM riot just happened.

She loads the dishwasher like the actual shapes and sizes of the objects have no bearing on the placement or arrangement strategy. And yes, there's always at least one bowl right side up, full of water, and waiting to splash when you pull the rack out.

That same lack of spatial relations awareness carries over to how she puts things in the fridge. I can be right now there's a small plate with one small item on it taking up most of the room where the tall stuff like milk should sit. There will also be an empty bowl that used to hold unpeeled boiled eggs. The eggs have all been eaten, but the bowl's still sitting there.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21496 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:27 am to
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my wife could teach the class. She will puzzle piece every damn item we have in the kitchen into that thing before starting it. Takes an hour to unload the thing after it runs.



Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
21496 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:30 am to
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lack of spatial relations awareness


Don't get me started on her attempting to load a car before vacation.

She knows to not even attempt now as I've huffed and puffed enough times unloaded and reloading her disaster. And magically, there's double the amount of space when I'm done.

Tetris is right. For you parents with little girls, get them into Tetris, it's too late for our wives





This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 9:31 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:32 am to
If there is a single female Loadmaster in the Air Force, you know it is DEI.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40878 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:35 am to
Give the gift of Tetris. She figures it out without saying a word.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
174 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:35 am to
Give up. It's not changing. I don't know what it is, but I think the female brain gets set on one way of doing things and cannot deviate even in the face of compelling evidence that there is a better way.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15380 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:36 am to
regular dishwasher maintenance (cleaning filter, running vinegar cycle) >>>> autistic loadmaxxxing
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14874 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:36 am to
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She doesn't understand covering food in the microwave, though.


Yep! Mine has no concept of time and temp settings.

Its either boil it over or hot on the surface and cold on the bottom.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
174 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:36 am to
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You can try not bothering yourself with how your wife does her chores, it might make you a happier person.



Let the husband deviate one time on how things are done and see how that goes for him.
Posted by LSUgolf
Hogs ROLLED 34-30
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:39 am to
My wife is Way over the top OCD. I am not. What i can't understand is this.

I grew up in a house that never had dirty dishes in the sink. Me still to this day never leave them in there.

My wife being OCD like she i would think she would hate dirty dishes in the sink.

OH NO!!!! I come home from work every day and she and the kids have it full o f stuff that can go in the dishwasher. I believe sometimes she expects me to do it. NOPE I didn't make that mess. It on you and the kids. Its a peeve I will never understand why they do it.

JUST CLEAN THE MESS UP!!!!
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
174 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:39 am to
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I just brought your thread up to my wife. She came back at me with "men need to take a shop organizing class" lol.....I had no come back



True, but the shop doesn't affect anyone else in the house.
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
4366 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:40 am to
Our dishwasher may be run 2 or 3 times per year. We handwash most everything and use it as a drying rack for the fresh washed dishes.

This was started a few years ago, when the dishwasher was worn out. When we moved several times, the habit remained.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13527 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:42 am to
We've had the same set of dishes for over 20 years. The plates curve up at the edge to a lip, and there is only one spot in every dishwasher we've had that they fit in. Some it is the front of the bottom rack, some it is the back. All depends on the tines sticking up. But once you figure that out, the rest is easy. I just don't understand opening it and seeing 3-4 of the large plates all toppled over at the front of the bottom rack. Stick them in the back, they stand up straight, and actually get clean instead of one blocking the sprayer from all the rest that are piled up behind it.

Same thing with the silverware. Somehow the front 2-3 spots are jammed so full, and the back half there might be one or two utensils each. I don't think my family even opens the door all the way, they just pop it open and toss a spoon into the front which is already overloaded.

They don't understand that loading the bottom rack actually takes a minimal amount of effort and bending over.


And don't get me started on the water bottle and cup collection that magically appears right after I turned the dishwasher on at night. Sink empty, cleaned, counters wiped off, all dishes in there and it is running and 9 water bottles and 6 cups will be stacked in the sink from my teenagers. I don't know where they are hiding them in the house, or why they start using a fresh one without bringing the dirty one down to wash.
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
1478 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:44 am to
Loading can be an issue, but my wife is notorious for not wanting to unload the dishwasher. She will was the same dishes 3 times just to avoid having to put them up.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
174 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:49 am to
Also, really want Sally and GreenRock to weigh in on this.
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