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re: Can someone explain travel ball to me
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:02 pm to lsu777
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:02 pm to lsu777
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we can agree on that but everything charges. Rec all star charges, hs games charge etc etc etc
There's a big difference from a school charging a gate fee, and USSSA charging a gate fee.
What is USSSA goign to do for me with that money? host a tournament? do I really need them to host the tournament? I'm sure we can find someone else to create and update the tourney app schedule. They do absolutely nothing to give back to the game with that money. BREC could hire a baseball director and host their own tournaments at their parks. it's not that difficult. Instead they just pass the headache to USSSA/2D/OTC and make us pay for it. It is ridiculous that i pay a ridiculous amount of taxes for these fields, and then have to pay to play on them, and then have to pay to get into them. And is BREC using the money they are getting from the tournies to make the parks better?
At least I know that the fee schools charge goes back towards the athletics at the school, where my kid can benefit from it by getting new equipment and upgrading facilities.
I've spent more money in gate fees to watch my own two kids play sports than my parents ever spent on me to play basketball, baseball and soccer every year from age 5-18 combined. Factor in club fees and equipment and it's just a ridiculous amount of money being spent to play sports today, tens of thousands of dollars.
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Youth sports should not be a business where you make money, and that's exactly what PG/USSSA/2D/OTC are. And it's no different in basketball and soccer. Making money comes first over developement of youth players, and i'm sure its' the same with competitive cheer/dance.
Around me it's always the guys who never made it anywhere past some small juco who have found a different way to "stay in the game" and make a living. They would have been better off being a little better academically and or pursuing a good career, but they have found a niche with all this stuff.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:10 pm to chRxis
quote:it has nothing to do with it, kids that tryout aren't asked if they play travel ball or not. We couldn't give a shite less. Can you help the team win? It's all that matters.
what does travel ball have to do with playing for the HS team? it's not a pre-requisite to making the HS team... can said players not play in local leagues, practice on their own, etc. and still make the HS team?
Now, some of them sure have played travel ball, some you can tell and some you can't. But most of the travel ball parents are the ones complaining when. their kids don't start as a freshman.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:11 pm to chRxis
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talent is talent... i've never heard a guy going out for a team and not making the team b/c the coach said he didn't pay travel ball, as the reason he didn't make the team... either you are good enough, travel ball aside, or not... pretty simple really... travel ball doesn't make or break it for everyone... again, talent is talent.
this is true...but if you have never been around high level athletes or played the game against them....the speed at which the game is played kills them.
lets say you take a kid that is a mind blowing athlete and he has only ever played rec ball.....then decide one weekend to go pick up with a 12u majors team in a super nit....all the sudden the ball is not being pitched at 55 anymore....its 75 and the ball is coming off the bat 80+ vs the 52 it was in rec
same reason really really good HS players that are drafted 1st round cant jump straight to the majors
true in that coaches dont care but if you cant keep up with the speed of the game...cant play.
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i know not everyone is... there are some that are legit just happy to have their kid involved in something... but there are some, i've come across some in the travel basketball and volleyball circuits, that are just way too much... and that shite takes a toll on the kids too, man... sucks, but yeah...
that is everywhere and in everything
hell i know some people that are like that with duck hunting. get fricking pissed and yell and even hit their kids if they miss
some people are just assholes but i find 90% of people just want whats best for their kid and for their kid to follow his/her dreams as long as possible.
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i know you didn't... overall, you seem like a good dude, i've never had a problem with you...
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wiw, i fricking HATE baseball.. its the most boring shite on earth, and i'd fricking die if my kid does want to play... granted, he's supposed to be around 6'5" when he finishes growing, so i'd be good to have him in that, especially being left handed and all, but good god, if there's ANY other sport that he wants to do, i'd gladly accept that vs. baseball...
i love baseball...but prefer football. I have 1 son that plays football, other just baseball and youngest plays all. they all played them until junior high...so i get a little of all of it. I just want my to have fun, chase their dreams. Be the best they can be.
i think travel baseball leaves a bad taste because of social media and people being over the top with it on there and then also people get pissed when their kid doesnt make it or they feel like their kid is left behind. Messing with peoples kids pisses people off and they lash out.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:13 pm to TheRouxGuru
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go wheel yourself into the other room and eat 5 Popeyes biscuits with no water
WTF?
Oh you want me to choke?
Message boards and social media has turned some of you people into complete idiots. Do you really get mad at what someone post especially when its not about you? You just don't like my opinion and it seems to make you want to blow a gasket.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:13 pm to TeddyPadillac
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There's a big difference from a school charging a gate fee, and USSSA charging a gate fee.
What is USSSA goign to do for me with that money? host a tournament? do I really need them to host the tournament? I'm sure we can find someone else to create and update the tourney app schedule. They do absolutely nothing to give back to the game with that money. BREC could hire a baseball director and host their own tournaments at their parks. it's not that difficult. Instead they just pass the headache to USSSA/2D/OTC and make us pay for it. It is ridiculous that i pay a ridiculous amount of taxes for these fields, and then have to pay to play on them, and then have to pay to get into them. And is BREC using the money they are getting from the tournies to make the parks better?
At least I know that the fee schools charge goes back towards the athletics at the school, where my kid can benefit from it by getting new equipment and upgrading facilities.
I've spent more money in gate fees to watch my own two kids play sports than my parents ever spent on me to play basketball, baseball and soccer every year from age 5-18 combined. Factor in club fees and equipment and it's just a ridiculous amount of money being spent to play sports today, tens of thousands of dollars.
thats cool you feel that away...but if you think people are just going to hot those for free
all stars always charged gate fee.
and if you dont like the money being spent or cant afford it...dont do it. no reason to do it and then steal by buying arm bands off amazon
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:14 pm to TigerDog83
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Around me it's always the guys who never made it anywhere past some small juco who have found a different way to "stay in the game" and make a living. They would have been better off being a little better academically and or pursuing a good career, but they have found a niche with all this stuff.
so basic supply and demand is what pisses you off?
just trying to understand
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:15 pm to TT9
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Now, some of them sure have played travel ball, some you can tell and some you can't. But most of the travel ball parents are the ones complaining when. their kids don't start as a freshman.
any parent that thinks their kid can walk into one of the really good schools like i named and start as a freshman....
delusional fricks considering the only ones that do are top 10 ranked kids in the state. Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:16 pm to lsu777
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and if you dont like the money being spent or cant afford it...dont do it
You dont think this is a bad thing, which is your opinion and fine I guess. Many people disagree. I don’t think people, kids especially, should be priced out of the game. It’s bad for the kids and bad for the game. The cat is already out of the bag, but it doesn’t have to be this way.
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so basic supply and demand is what pisses you off?
We control market factors in all sectors of the economy. We live in a society. This is an argument only a dumbass would make
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:18 pm to lsu777
Trust me I know. But you called Farragut po dunk. Look us up.
It's insane here. But we win.
It's insane here. But we win.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:19 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You dont think this is a bad thing, which is your opinion and fine I guess. Many people disagree. I don’t think people, kids especially, should be priced out of the game. It’s bad for the kids and bad for the game. The cat is already out of the bag, but it doesn’t have to be this way.
they arent priced out...there are travel teams for every financial and commitment level and there is still rec ball.
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We control market factors in all sectors of the economy. We live in a society. This is an argument only a dumbass would make
no those coaches are supplying a service for the demand. i understand the market forces and the market forces say there is demand.....you just dont like what the market is saying
thats fine...dont participate. play rec.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:20 pm to TT9
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Trust me I know. But you called Farragut po dunk. Look us up.
It's insane here. But we win.
i live in barbe school district and next to sam houston...i understand that and we play in houston all the time. But Louisiana is actually really good about the way most teams handle travel ball.
the 2d select series helps a ton.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:21 pm to lsu777
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they arent priced out...there are travel teams for every financial and commitment level
You’re contradicting yourself. I don’t think youth baseball should be financed via consumer debt of go fund mes. And that’s happening.
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no those coaches are supplying a service for the demand. i understand the market forces and the market forces say there is demand.....you just dont like what the market is saying
As I said, you wouldn’t understand it, and you don’t.
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thats fine...dont participate. play rec.
My entire point continues to buzz right by your slacked jaw
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:22 pm to lsu777
quote:No better baseball state imo.
But Louisiana is actually really good about the way most teams handle travel ball.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:24 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You’re contradicting yourself. I don’t think youth baseball should be financed via consumer debt of go fund mes. And that’s happening.
alot of things are...so then less poor people should play. the poors can go back to rec ball
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As I said, you wouldn’t understand it, and you don’t.
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My entire point continues to buzz right by your slacked jaw
:rotflmao: understanding and agreeing are two different things
look its real simple...cat is out the bag...not going back in
if i could get my kid the some experience while playing 2 games a week and costing me 100 per season...sure i would....but aint happening and nothing you can do to fix it
you seem to not want to accept that reality.
thats fine...stick to rec and stomp your feet, yell its unfair and make a stand.....im sure thousands will follow you.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:24 pm to lsu777
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and if you dont like the money being spent or cant afford it...dont do it.
I'd love to not do it.
What is my other options for my kid to play baseball that's competitive?
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no reason to do it and then steal by buying arm bands off amazon
Don't give a shite. I pay enough money to play, i'll cheat and steal as much as i can back from these organizations who aren't doing a god damn thing with that money other than lining their pockets. If they would show me how they used the almost $500 i'm going to pay in gate fees to make the game or facility better for my kid, then maybe i'd be more inclined to pay without bitching about it. We can't even play baseball games with a working scoreboard anywhere. What the hell is the $2000 team fee to pay for tournaments and my $500 for gate fees going to? To rent a field I already pay taxes for to play on, and to some guy who updates the schedule on an app?
I have zero issue with paying to go to youth school football and basketball games. I don't look for ways to cheat them. Hell I went and volunteered my time to run the scoreboard this past weekend at a school basketball tournament, that my kid wasnt' playing in, and i paid the $5 to get as well. So I paid to go volunteer my time.
meanwhile i'm paying thousands of dollars to play baseball in parks with no shade, no protection from foul balls, and no scoreboard.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
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What is my other options for my kid to play baseball that's competitive?
there arent
so either live with it...or take a stand and put him in rec only.
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To rent a field I already pay taxes for to play on, and to some guy who updates the schedule on an app?
you keep bringing this up.....go bitch to your local rec and PJ rep...they are the ones making teams rent the fields.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:35 pm to lsu777
Unless your kid is Bo Jackson or Bryce Harper, they need to play travel ball to play on a decent high school team. You parents in denial need to remember this thread when your son or daughter come home crying after getting cut their freshman year. Find the right group of boys and parents and enjoy it. If you think your kid will want to play in high school, give the chance by letting them see good competition and develop. If you don’t do it, other parents will and you will end up with a sad kid sitting at home playing fort night.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:36 pm to Roughneck2020
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If you think your kid will want to play in high school, give the chance by letting them see good competition and develop.
How are you to know that when they’re 7?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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How are you to know that when they’re 7?
do they enjoy the game? are they good at the game compared to their peers? do they want to practice on their own?
if the answer is yes...then let them play on a team that plays locally and has a good rep if you can afford it.
if not play rec and see if they start liking it more at 8.
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