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re: Camera - Sony or Fuji Mirrorless
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:17 pm to TheJunction
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:17 pm to TheJunction
quote:Assuming makes an arse out of you and you.
My wife is pregnant (no pics) with our first child
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:18 pm to TheJunction
I shot Nikon for years... Sold everything and switched to Sony last year. I love it!! I got the A7iii with tamron 28-75mm and Sony 85mm. Have a wide angle on order. You will love the Eye auto focus.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:22 pm to TheJunction
First, why mirrorless?
Some are great, Sony right now makes some of the best and even makes crop sensor mirrorless cameras that aren't as expensive as the full frame ones. I'm partial to Nikon but their Z7 and Z6 aren't up to par as comparable Sony kit (A7iii or something like that). Then again, the Nikon Z series is fairly new. They recently released firmware for the Z series to give it eye detection auto focus, a feature Sony cameras already had.
Second, do you plan on taking photography seriously as a hobby to drop $2500 on a camera and lenses? You know, take pictures without having to rely on auto mode?
Not being a dick or gatekeeping, I've got into the hobby myself a year ago. It's just a lot of money to spend on just casually taking pictures. I opted for a crop sensor DSLR and a few lenses and will probably trade up later.
All cameras output a raw format which is just the raw sensor data. Applications like Adobe Lightroom allow you to adjust thngs like saturation, exposure, etc. regardless of camera make. Lightroom usually has config files for various cameras and lenses to accommodate for things like the sensor data and things unique to lenses to compensate for things like chromatic aberration and lens distortion.
Few examples I've taken:
Sunset at the Sabine River bridge on I-10
Pano of the Cane River (Click here for bigger image)
With Photoshop you can get really fancy and do effects like this, such as a miniature effect.
Lightroom isn't the only app out there that you can do post-production with. Darktable for instance is a free digital post-production program that works as well.
Some are great, Sony right now makes some of the best and even makes crop sensor mirrorless cameras that aren't as expensive as the full frame ones. I'm partial to Nikon but their Z7 and Z6 aren't up to par as comparable Sony kit (A7iii or something like that). Then again, the Nikon Z series is fairly new. They recently released firmware for the Z series to give it eye detection auto focus, a feature Sony cameras already had.
Second, do you plan on taking photography seriously as a hobby to drop $2500 on a camera and lenses? You know, take pictures without having to rely on auto mode?
Not being a dick or gatekeeping, I've got into the hobby myself a year ago. It's just a lot of money to spend on just casually taking pictures. I opted for a crop sensor DSLR and a few lenses and will probably trade up later.
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Another seemingly advantage to Sony is in post production. From what I have read, it is harder (not as smooth?) to edit a Fuji photo as it is Sony. I don't plan on doing a lot of heavy editing, but I do plan on doing some.
All cameras output a raw format which is just the raw sensor data. Applications like Adobe Lightroom allow you to adjust thngs like saturation, exposure, etc. regardless of camera make. Lightroom usually has config files for various cameras and lenses to accommodate for things like the sensor data and things unique to lenses to compensate for things like chromatic aberration and lens distortion.
Few examples I've taken:
Sunset at the Sabine River bridge on I-10
Pano of the Cane River (Click here for bigger image)
With Photoshop you can get really fancy and do effects like this, such as a miniature effect.
Lightroom isn't the only app out there that you can do post-production with. Darktable for instance is a free digital post-production program that works as well.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:29 pm to Pechon
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Lightroom isn't the only app out there that you can do post-production with. Darktable for instance is a free digital post-production program that works as well.
Capture One Express is free for Sony and Fuji. It's pretty badass and does everything I need. I just adjust shadows, highlights and crop anyway.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:30 pm to TheJunction
Panasonic GH4 or 5 is a better camera for a similar price in that class.
ETA - didn't read past the dollar amount in the OP. I see you've scaled back your range.
ETA - didn't read past the dollar amount in the OP. I see you've scaled back your range.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:32 pm to slackster
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Panasonic GH4
Micro 4/3rds systems have some hefty trade offs. Mainly low light due to sensor size.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Micro 4/3rds systems have some hefty trade offs. Mainly low light due to sensor size.
Yeah every system has pros and cons. Read alot before I bought one 5 years ago. I've got the GH4 and it is one of the best purchases I've ever made. The pictures and 4k video are just incredible, and I'm nothing more than a novice really. Ultimately there are no competitors in that range that really compared at the time. Sony has picked up steam of late though.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:42 pm to slackster
I do think the Panasonics and Olympus cameras are damn good for stills and video and offer a good selection of lenses. Smaller and lighter too.
I strongly considered it before going with the Fuji. They're definitely a capable competitor. I'm pretty sold on the APS-C sensor though.
I strongly considered it before going with the Fuji. They're definitely a capable competitor. I'm pretty sold on the APS-C sensor though.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Micro 4/3rds systems have some hefty trade offs. Mainly low light due to sensor size.
Aren't the lenses for Micro 4/3rds typically more expensive, even compared to like quality and focal length full frame counterparts? It seems like that's what's always said, never really priced it out myself.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:56 pm to Pechon
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Aren't the lenses for Micro 4/3rds typically more expensive, even compared to like quality and focal length full frame counterparts? It seems like that's what's always said, never really priced it out myself
I'm not sure if they're more expensive or you just are inclined to spend more to combat any low light issues. My 25mm and 50mm lenses are 1.4 and 1.8 f-stops, respectively. That's naturally going to be pricier.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:09 pm to Pechon
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Aren't the lenses for Micro 4/3rds typically more expensive, even compared to like quality and focal length full frame counterparts? It seems like that's what's always said, never really priced it out myself.
Not compared to full frame. Compared to crop sensor, maybe. I think Panasonics X lenses are pretty pricey, but so are good Sony and Fuji lenses.
They're smaller and lighter though and get longer reach compared to systems with larger sensors
You can also interchange Olympus and Panasonic lenses as theytpre both micro 4/3rds (except for the new full frame)
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You can also interchange Olympus and Panasonic lenses as theytpre both micro 4/3rds
Correct. Good glass is definitely not an issue.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:54 pm to slackster
I have a Nikon DSLR right now and am saving up most likely for a Sony. Even though I'll need new lenses I'm very interested in their mirrorless cameras.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:37 pm to Pechon
This is done, properly, with a tilt shift lens, not in photoshop, although you can fake it to a certain degree. Really hard to do in video unless using a tilt shift lens.
As for the OP, Canon's new EOS-R mirrorless camera and the complete redesign of lens technology is awesome. The lenses are weighted at the camera instead of at the end of the lens. This makes using the canera/lens combo more effortless and less tiring. Sony might have been first, but for the uninformed, Canon is known to license IP technology to Sony and Fuji and let them be the ones to test a market, then Canon swoops in with better tech. Canon is the #3 company in the world in number of patents filed every year. They've been the #1 patent company out of Japan for over 40 years straight. Licensing is big business for them. Just because Canon wasn't first, don't believe their new mirrorless products are inferior to Sony.
As for the OP, Canon's new EOS-R mirrorless camera and the complete redesign of lens technology is awesome. The lenses are weighted at the camera instead of at the end of the lens. This makes using the canera/lens combo more effortless and less tiring. Sony might have been first, but for the uninformed, Canon is known to license IP technology to Sony and Fuji and let them be the ones to test a market, then Canon swoops in with better tech. Canon is the #3 company in the world in number of patents filed every year. They've been the #1 patent company out of Japan for over 40 years straight. Licensing is big business for them. Just because Canon wasn't first, don't believe their new mirrorless products are inferior to Sony.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:27 am to HubbaBubba
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This is done, properly, with a tilt shift lens
True, but for now the $10/month I pay for creative cloud is cheaper than a tilt shift lens which will run anywhere from $1-2k, even more in some cases. It's not the only thing I use Photoshop for, other things like color pop or touching up certain details you can't do in Lightroom.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:31 am to TheJunction
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Fuji XT-30
Get the Fuji XT-20 and use the money you save on a good lens.
And search for these cameras on Flickr. You can usually find groups dedicated to a specific camera. Go look for groups for the cameras you're interested in and look at the photos people are posting.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 7:47 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:56 pm to Pechon
Mirrorless because of the size and that is where (it seems) the technology is going. I want something that I can carry around and it not feel like a huge burden.
As for the $2500 - that was the budget I had assumed it would take to get a camera worth upgrading to from an iPhone camera. I was obviously wrong and will likely not spend half of that.
My thinking was/is to spend the money now on something decent, instead of buying something cheap and upgrading it in six months. I know that the FF are "better" than the crop-sensor in situations, but I feel like I'll be more than satisfied with the crop-sensor I choose and will not regret spending the additional money just because I have it.
I definitely do plan to take it on as a hobby, but it's hard to know for sure because I have never owned a camera. I will say that I really enjoy taking pictures with my iPhone and feel like it's time to step up.
As for the $2500 - that was the budget I had assumed it would take to get a camera worth upgrading to from an iPhone camera. I was obviously wrong and will likely not spend half of that.
My thinking was/is to spend the money now on something decent, instead of buying something cheap and upgrading it in six months. I know that the FF are "better" than the crop-sensor in situations, but I feel like I'll be more than satisfied with the crop-sensor I choose and will not regret spending the additional money just because I have it.
I definitely do plan to take it on as a hobby, but it's hard to know for sure because I have never owned a camera. I will say that I really enjoy taking pictures with my iPhone and feel like it's time to step up.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:54 pm to TheJunction
quote:What about going somewhere in between, like a high-end point and shoot? I have a Panasonic ZS100 and really like it. It has a full sized sensor, and a good many controls on it so you can do a lot more than just the automatic settings.
I definitely do plan to take it on as a hobby, but it's hard to know for sure because I have never owned a camera. I will say that I really enjoy taking pictures with my iPhone and feel like it's time to step up.
It shoots beautiful pictures, and you don't have to lug around all the extra lenses or anything.
It might be a good step up from your phone, but save you some money and let's you see how much you use it as opposed to your phone. If you find that you really are using it a lot, and enjoying the various modes and working in Lightroom, then upgrade to a full mirrorless system in a few years.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:00 pm to TheJunction
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know that the FF are "better" than the crop-sensor in situations, but I feel like I'll be more than satisfied with the crop-sensor I choose and will not regret spending the additional money just because I have it.
The only real advantage is low light and crop sensors do a good enough job. Mine shoots pretty damn clean at 3200 ISO.
Don't get anything over 24mp unless you're making large posters. They just clog up your computer.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:10 pm to GetCocky11
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And search for these cameras on Flickr. You can usually find groups dedicated to a specific camera
I really dig the color replication of Fuji. Looks as close to what you see in person as anything I've seen
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