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Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:47 pm to Mr. Hangover
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I agree completely but you can't tell the difference between the two over the internet - especially if you never saw the patient
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:48 pm to SmackoverHawg
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but if your story is correct,
We both know it's not entirely correct. I haven't worked up a CHF exacerbation since residency on our ED rotation, and haven't medically managed CHF since another off service rotation in residency. Even I wouldn't have missed CHF as many times as these docs supposedly did. Darth is at least partly full of crap.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:49 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:53 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
sounds more like a viral URI that turned into myocarditis/CHF, until you find out about the CAD and mitral valve issue.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:56 pm to Darth_Vader
This is obviously a troll job. Darth Vader lost his heart in the battle with Obi-Wan.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:57 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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We both know it's not entirely correct. I haven't worked up a CHF exacerbation since residency on our ED rotation, and haven't medically managed CHF since another off service rotation in residency. Even I wouldn't have missed CHF as many times as these docs supposedly did. Darth is at least partly full of crap
Over three months bewteeen August and late October I visited my Family doctors (same practice) at least four, maybe five times. During that same time frame I made two trips to the ER where I was cared for by the same ER docotor both times.
In all these visits with all three doctors, not one single time did any of them say anything about congestive heart failure.
The closest any of them came was once in the ER the doctor there pointed out on an x-ray that my heart "looked a bit enlarged" and "I recommend you check into that AFTER YOURE OVER THIS PNEUMONIA". That very night I was in the ER complaining of shortness of breath and massive swelling in my lower legs and ankles. In addition to this they were monitoring my vitals which showed my heart rate was very irregular and even jumping up to over 140 bpm even when resting. And even with all that this doctor still didn't figure out I had congestive heart failure.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:00 pm to Darth_Vader
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That very night I was in the ER complaining of shortness of breath and massive swelling in my lower legs and ankles
Aren't these symptoms of pneumonia?
That's a serious question
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:03 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Aren't these symptoms of pneumonia?
That's a serious question
I don't think they are. The shortness of breath, yeah. But the only things the swelling in the lower legs can be are either CHF or a side effect of steroids which I was on at the time. However, that's not all they had to go on. She had both my vital signs which pointed to CHF as well as an x-ray showing my heart was enlarged. It should have been obvious to her but she totally missed it.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:16 pm to Darth_Vader
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I can't sleep at night, always short of breath, andcwhats worse, I've got serious swelling, especially in my feet. I've ballooned up to right at 255 lbs. I go back to our family doc and this time see his wife. She diagnoses me with pneumonia.
Given that constellation of symptoms, it's inconceivable that a competent MD wouldn't need to rule out CHF.
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Over the next month between September and late October I keep getting worse. Things are getting serious. I make two trips to the local small town hospital emergency room due to trouble breathing and massive swelling in my lower legs and ankles. One one such trip my wife begs the ER doctor to admit me for tests and the doctor's reply was "I have no reason to admit your husband". Now keep in mind this Doctor was looking at all my vital signs and even had a chest x-ray on me. They still thought I was "getting over" pneumonia.
I take it that guy was aware of your prior diagnosis and was at best extremely lazy in his thinking so went with it. Sad.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:20 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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I take it that guy was aware of your prior diagnosis and was at best extremely lazy in his thinking so went with it. Sad
That's what makes me mad. Either these doctors were incredibly stupid or incredibly lazy with a huge case of not giving a shite.
Either way they all need to be drummed out of the profession and never allowed to even check someone's temperature ever again. Same goes for their nurses because even they should have seen it.
The worst part of all this is what my poor wife and kids have gone through. She was in the room the night I went out and saw me laying there lifeless as they rushed to prep me for emergency surgery (it was so bad they did the surgery right there in my CICU room). She had to go to the waiting room and start calling friends and family to come down to say goodbye. My own son, just a couple weeks from turning 15 had to make the hour trip to Birmingham that night (he'd gone home the day before and was staying with friends) thinking the whole way down I was already gone. This left both my son and wife traumatized.
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:23 pm to Darth_Vader
Yeah a resting hr of 140 and with an abnormal rhythm is abnormal.
You got screwed. Your gp back in July/August should have ordered an X-ray that inhaler and steroids messed you up.
Unfortunately I'm not sure if you can win a case that will depend on how well known these physicians are and if you can find a good lawyer and dr to represent you and give expert testimony. May not hurt to settle out of court perhaps if it goes that far of course??
You got screwed. Your gp back in July/August should have ordered an X-ray that inhaler and steroids messed you up.
Unfortunately I'm not sure if you can win a case that will depend on how well known these physicians are and if you can find a good lawyer and dr to represent you and give expert testimony. May not hurt to settle out of court perhaps if it goes that far of course??
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:24 pm to Darth_Vader
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sounds more like a viral URI that turned into myocarditis/CHF
Entirely possible that the precipitating factor was a viral respiratory illness possibly leading to a cardiomyopathy which coupled with congenital MV abnl precipitated CHF. May not be completely black and white. Edema coupled with SOB is clearly suggestive of CHF, question is was CHF present originally or not. I would imagine that the medical record would tell the tale. I hope your doctor wasn't obtuse or lazy and that this was not straight forward.
I know from practicing medicine/surgery for 18 years that the diagnosis is always easier retrospectively, but I also know if someone comes back with the same problem that doesn't get better or worsens, you have to broaden the scope of your investigation and sometimes even get another set of eyes involved.
Do your due diligence, consult a respected firm and go from there. Without a review of the record (especially with regards to specific lab tests and imaging), no one here is going to be able to accurately tell you if you have a case or not. If they screwed up because of laziness or flat out incompetence, then I hope you do find some relief within the legal system.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:27 pm to Darth_Vader
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The resin they were concerned about my survival
It's reason, not resin, you fricking idiot. It's a good thing your health doesn't depend on proper word usage
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:28 pm to Darth_Vader
Gotta think there's more to this story. Not that I'm saying you're not telling the truth, but just that that's a lot of physicians to go through to miss the VERY obvious problem. Here's a good rule to live by. If you're having a real problem, go see a specialist sooner then later.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:30 pm to Breesus
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It's reason, not resin, you fricking idiot. It's a good thing your health doesn't depend on proper word usage
Apple IPhone autocorrect. It's a good thing your health does not depend on your ability to think logically. But I guess you've never had a typo in your life have you?
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:35 pm to Darth_Vader
If it hasn't been stated already, attorneys for these cases almost always work on a contingency fee basis and will give you a legal evaluation without charge.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:45 pm to RhodeDawg
Dawg,
Without addressing darth's situation, it's very very easy to find doctors to testify against other doctors. Experts are VERY well compensated.
And expensive lawyers does not correlate to great lawyers. There are plenty of shitty lawyers on both sides of med mal cases.
Without addressing darth's situation, it's very very easy to find doctors to testify against other doctors. Experts are VERY well compensated.
And expensive lawyers does not correlate to great lawyers. There are plenty of shitty lawyers on both sides of med mal cases.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:49 pm to Darth_Vader
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Turns out my problem was a "cleft" mitral valve that I'd been born with. Id lived my whole life up till now not knowing about it.
So you had a rare random unknown birth defect that went unknown and undetected for 40+ years and you want to sue a gen prac for not immediately diagnosing that?
Good luck.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:56 pm to Darth_Vader
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I guess you've never had a typo in your life have you?
Now i haevemt'
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